Light transport lands on runway too short for part 135 operation.

Attributes
ACN	172637
Time
Date	199103
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : 3r8
State Reference	LA
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Flight Phase	landing other
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 70 flight time total : 7700 flight time type : 2100
ASRS Report	172637
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation other

Narrative:

Flight was an far 135 operation from DW8 to 3r8 in an light transport. Prior to departure an fdc NOTAM check using duat showed no NOTAMS for 3r8, which has a 5000' and 4000' runway. Flight to 3r8 was routine, with airport in sight and a visibility approach clearance accepted. Unicom was contacted. Unicom informed us that long runway was closed, and had been for 60 days! The wind was 20 KTS down the 4000' runway. Charted data on checklist. Showed 4300' required (135) at our weight. A quick look at flight manual graphs showed 20 KT wind reduced distance to 4000'. Landing by first officer (also a rated captain) was west/O problems. After parking and deplaning passenger the flight manual was again consulted. Running the 'kun around' charts in the comfort of the FBO showed that far 135 landing distance was probably closer to 4100'. You've got to watch these charts!

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: LTT LANDS ON RWY TOO SHORT FOR PART 135 OPERATION.

Narrative: FLT WAS AN FAR 135 OPERATION FROM DW8 TO 3R8 IN AN LTT. PRIOR TO DEP AN FDC NOTAM CHK USING DUAT SHOWED NO NOTAMS FOR 3R8, WHICH HAS A 5000' AND 4000' RWY. FLT TO 3R8 WAS ROUTINE, WITH ARPT IN SIGHT AND A VIS APCH CLRNC ACCEPTED. UNICOM WAS CONTACTED. UNICOM INFORMED US THAT LONG RWY WAS CLOSED, AND HAD BEEN FOR 60 DAYS! THE WIND WAS 20 KTS DOWN THE 4000' RWY. CHARTED DATA ON CHKLIST. SHOWED 4300' REQUIRED (135) AT OUR WT. A QUICK LOOK AT FLT MANUAL GRAPHS SHOWED 20 KT WIND REDUCED DISTANCE TO 4000'. LNDG BY F/O (ALSO A RATED CAPT) WAS W/O PROBS. AFTER PARKING AND DEPLANING PAX THE FLT MANUAL WAS AGAIN CONSULTED. RUNNING THE 'KUN AROUND' CHARTS IN THE COMFORT OF THE FBO SHOWED THAT FAR 135 LNDG DISTANCE WAS PROBABLY CLOSER TO 4100'. YOU'VE GOT TO WATCH THESE CHARTS!

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.