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Attributes | |
ACN | 1729988 |
Time | |
Date | 202002 |
Local Time Of Day | 0001-0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | WHP.Tower |
State Reference | CA |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Other Traffic Pattern |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Pilot Not Flying |
Qualification | Flight Crew Multiengine Flight Crew Instrument Flight Crew Flight Instructor Flight Crew Commercial |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 89 Flight Crew Total 2022 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict NMAC |
Miss Distance | Horizontal 150 Vertical 50 |
Narrative:
I had been contacted by a gentleman who recently had purchased a beechcraft BE19 sport. He was interested in finding a CFI to help out with some flight training. Since I have flying hours in comparable types; but not the BE19; I wished to fly with him in his airplane to get a feel for it and build some experience. He was in the left seat and I was in the right seat. We were granted takeoff clearance off right closed traffic was approved.the departure and crosswind legs were normal; as was the initial downwind turn. While we were midfield downwind; another aircraft made a radio call along the lines of 'I sure hope that airplane in front of me isn't landing here'. I immediately felt something wasn't right and looked to my 5 o' clock position. Sure enough; a piper cherokee was also flying the downwind with us. He was a little lower and overtaking. It appeared he had taken evasive action to the right of course; and we elected the safest option was to proceed straight ahead and do not alter course.tower then said; 'oh yeah; that guy is definitely not supposed to be there.' it appeared the controller had forgotten talking to us shortly beforehand. I called up and said '...we were cleared for right closed traffic.' tower gave us a left 360 and had the cherokee land first. Our landing was uneventful. Once we landed; I called tower on the phone. I spoke to the local controller and told the controller that I wished to file an near midair collision. I am awaiting the supervisor's call.the controller admitted making the mistake; but this was a great learning experience for all involved. Contributing to this was how this was my first flight in this airplane. Because of this; I was concentrating more on flying tasks and system operations; and if this was a more familiar airplane; my eyes would have been outside more and perhaps I would've spotted the cherokee on an extended downwind. This event was a reminder that pilots must remain vigilant at all times and always clear every single turn - even with a control tower or ARTCC/tracon - especially in the traffic pattern.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: An instructor pilot reported a NMAC with another aircraft on the downwind leg.
Narrative: I had been contacted by a gentleman who recently had purchased a Beechcraft BE19 Sport. He was interested in finding a CFI to help out with some flight training. Since I have flying hours in comparable types; but not the BE19; I wished to fly with him in his airplane to get a feel for it and build some experience. He was in the left seat and I was in the right seat. We were granted takeoff clearance off right closed traffic was approved.The departure and crosswind legs were normal; as was the initial downwind turn. While we were midfield downwind; another aircraft made a radio call along the lines of 'I sure hope that airplane in front of me isn't landing here'. I immediately felt something wasn't right and looked to my 5 o' clock position. Sure enough; a Piper Cherokee was also flying the downwind with us. He was a little lower and overtaking. It appeared he had taken evasive action to the right of course; and we elected the safest option was to proceed straight ahead and do not alter course.Tower then said; 'Oh yeah; that guy is definitely not supposed to be there.' It appeared the Controller had forgotten talking to us shortly beforehand. I called up and said '...we were cleared for right closed traffic.' Tower gave us a left 360 and had the Cherokee land first. Our landing was uneventful. Once we landed; I called Tower on the phone. I spoke to the Local Controller and told the Controller that I wished to file an NMAC. I am awaiting the supervisor's call.The Controller admitted making the mistake; but this was a great learning experience for all involved. Contributing to this was how this was my first flight in this airplane. Because of this; I was concentrating more on flying tasks and system operations; and if this was a more familiar airplane; my eyes would have been outside more and perhaps I would've spotted the Cherokee on an extended downwind. This event was a reminder that pilots must remain vigilant at all times and always clear every single turn - even with a control tower or ARTCC/Tracon - especially in the traffic pattern.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.