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Cpr light transport given late clearance to stop climb at an altitude it was already passed. Descent made, but ATC apparently had a less than standard separation problem.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 173016 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199103 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : orl |
| State Reference | FL |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 19000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zma |
| Operator | general aviation : corporate |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute airway : zma enroute airway : zjx |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 95 flight time total : 5600 flight time type : 1800 |
| ASRS Report | 173016 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Inter Facility Coordination Failure Operational Error |
Narrative:
While climbing through FL180 to our cleared altitude of FL210, we were given at clearance (by mia center) to 'maintain 17000', jax center request.' our rate of climb was in excess of 3000 FPM so the transition from climb to descent was not instantaneous. We were nearly at FL190 by the time our descent was underway. Evidently there was a loss of sep standards with jax center traffic at FL180 and mia center gave us vectors to clear the traffic while we descended in IMC conditions to 17000'.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CPR LTT GIVEN LATE CLRNC TO STOP CLIMB AT AN ALT IT WAS ALREADY PASSED. DESCENT MADE, BUT ATC APPARENTLY HAD A LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION PROBLEM.
Narrative: WHILE CLBING THROUGH FL180 TO OUR CLRED ALT OF FL210, WE WERE GIVEN AT CLRNC (BY MIA CTR) TO 'MAINTAIN 17000', JAX CTR REQUEST.' OUR RATE OF CLB WAS IN EXCESS OF 3000 FPM SO THE TRANSITION FROM CLB TO DSNT WAS NOT INSTANTANEOUS. WE WERE NEARLY AT FL190 BY THE TIME OUR DSNT WAS UNDERWAY. EVIDENTLY THERE WAS A LOSS OF SEP STANDARDS WITH JAX CTR TFC AT FL180 AND MIA CTR GAVE US VECTORS TO CLR THE TFC WHILE WE DSNDED IN IMC CONDITIONS TO 17000'.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.