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Flight crew of medium large transport read back clearance to 15000'. At approximately 14600' saw traffic pass ahead at 15000'. Departure controller gave new clearance to go to 16000'.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 173641 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199103 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : ewr |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 14600 msl bound upper : 15000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 tower : mlb |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
| Route In Use | departure other |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 10000 |
| ASRS Report | 173641 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 300 |
| ASRS Report | 173833 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On departure from ewr, advised was on frequency in addition to (ourselves). Controller instructed us turn right to 360 degree, climb to 15000' and intercept J95. My first officer read back this clearance and got no correction from the controller. First officer went off ATC radio to call company. Passing 14600' I saw traffic at 12 O'clock high and asked the controller to verify the altitude cleared to. There was no conflict with the traffic I inquired about. The controller said 'you've already busted it, climb to 16000'.' nothing else was said on the radios and before leaving her frequency, asked for a phone number to call departure control when I got on the ground. Speaking with the area manager on the phone, he said he could not pull the tape unless I filed a report. I just wanted to determine who was wrong. This incomplete information leaves a nagging question in my mind. Similar sounding call signs was possibly a factor.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF MLG READ BACK CLRNC TO 15000'. AT APPROX 14600' SAW TRAFFIC PASS AHEAD AT 15000'. DEP CTLR GAVE NEW CLRNC TO GO TO 16000'.
Narrative: ON DEP FROM EWR, ADVISED WAS ON FREQ IN ADDITION TO (OURSELVES). CTLR INSTRUCTED US TURN R TO 360 DEG, CLB TO 15000' AND INTERCEPT J95. MY F/O READ BACK THIS CLRNC AND GOT NO CORRECTION FROM THE CTLR. F/O WENT OFF ATC RADIO TO CALL COMPANY. PASSING 14600' I SAW TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK HIGH AND ASKED THE CTLR TO VERIFY THE ALT CLRED TO. THERE WAS NO CONFLICT WITH THE TFC I INQUIRED ABOUT. THE CTLR SAID 'YOU'VE ALREADY BUSTED IT, CLB TO 16000'.' NOTHING ELSE WAS SAID ON THE RADIOS AND BEFORE LEAVING HER FREQ, ASKED FOR A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL DEP CTL WHEN I GOT ON THE GND. SPEAKING WITH THE AREA MGR ON THE PHONE, HE SAID HE COULD NOT PULL THE TAPE UNLESS I FILED A RPT. I JUST WANTED TO DETERMINE WHO WAS WRONG. THIS INCOMPLETE INFO LEAVES A NAGGING QUESTION IN MY MIND. SIMILAR SOUNDING CALL SIGNS WAS POSSIBLY A FACTOR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.