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Attributes | |
ACN | 1741390 |
Time | |
Date | 202005 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801-2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZLC.ARTCC |
State Reference | UT |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Route In Use | Direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Developmental |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Deviation - Procedural Clearance Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
I received a handoff on aircraft X. I immediately recognized the aircraft was too low for my terrain. I pulled up my mia (minimum IFR altitude) map; ran a route line; and verified the aircraft would need to be at 14;000 ft. To be above mia. When aircraft X checked on; I immediately asked the aircraft if they were capable of 14;000 ft.; or if they would prefer a vector to south to stay in lower mia. The pilot of aircraft X responded 'yeah; 14;000 ft. Is no problem!'. I told the aircraft to expect higher in 10 minutes; and the pilot of aircraft X read back 'expecting 14;000 ft. In 10 minutes.' I had made the decision to climb the aircraft near a VOR which was about 3 to 4 minutes flying time from the higher mia. I checked the aircraft climbing characteristics on erids; which showed the aircraft was capable of 900 ft. Per minute. As the aircraft would only need to climb 1;000 ft.; I felt comfortable giving the climb later which was roughly 10 minutes from his current position.I gave the instruction to climb to 14;000 ft. The pilot of aircraft X read it back correctly. The plane did not climb immediately. It took much longer than I expected for the aircraft to begin climbing; especially given that the pilot was expecting a climb. Once the aircraft began climbing; I noticed the aircraft was only doing about 100 ft. Per update. The aircraft went a few updates without climbing at all. At this point; the aircraft was within the 13;900 ft. Terrain bubble. Knowing that the peak in that terrain bubble is near the center; I decided that as a safety measure I would turn the aircraft away from the center as he continued his climb. I gave the aircraft 10 degrees right; which the pilot followed. Once the aircraft showed level at 14;000 ft. And MSAW (minimum safe altitude warning) alert was done; I cleared the aircraft back on his route.I could have provided the pilot with an earlier climb. I held off giving the pilot an early climb due to the confidence in his answers. I didn't think climbing to 14;000 ft. Would take as long as it did. If I gave a clearance to climb earlier; the issue wouldn't have occurred. The aircraft was on the south edge of a 13;900 ft. Terrain bubble. If I would've given the aircraft present heading sooner or a 5 degree right turn; I could've avoided the 13;900 ft. Bubble all together.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A Center trainee controller reported they waited too long to climb an aircraft to a higher altitude to stay above the Minimum IFR Altitude for its route.
Narrative: I received a handoff on Aircraft X. I immediately recognized the aircraft was too low for my terrain. I pulled up my MIA (Minimum IFR Altitude) map; ran a route line; and verified the aircraft would need to be at 14;000 ft. to be above MIA. When Aircraft X checked on; I immediately asked the aircraft if they were capable of 14;000 ft.; or if they would prefer a vector to south to stay in lower MIA. The pilot of Aircraft X responded 'Yeah; 14;000 ft. is no problem!'. I told the aircraft to expect higher in 10 minutes; and the pilot of Aircraft X read back 'expecting 14;000 ft. in 10 minutes.' I had made the decision to climb the aircraft near a VOR which was about 3 to 4 minutes flying time from the higher MIA. I checked the aircraft climbing characteristics on ERIDS; which showed the aircraft was capable of 900 ft. per minute. As the aircraft would only need to climb 1;000 ft.; I felt comfortable giving the climb later which was roughly 10 minutes from his current position.I gave the instruction to climb to 14;000 ft. The pilot of Aircraft X read it back correctly. The plane did not climb immediately. It took much longer than I expected for the aircraft to begin climbing; especially given that the pilot was expecting a climb. Once the aircraft began climbing; I noticed the aircraft was only doing about 100 ft. per update. The aircraft went a few updates without climbing at all. At this point; the aircraft was within the 13;900 ft. terrain bubble. Knowing that the peak in that terrain bubble is near the center; I decided that as a safety measure I would turn the aircraft away from the center as he continued his climb. I gave the aircraft 10 degrees right; which the pilot followed. Once the aircraft showed level at 14;000 ft. and MSAW (Minimum Safe Altitude Warning) alert was done; I cleared the aircraft back on his route.I could have provided the pilot with an earlier climb. I held off giving the pilot an early climb due to the confidence in his answers. I didn't think climbing to 14;000 ft. would take as long as it did. If I gave a clearance to climb earlier; the issue wouldn't have occurred. The aircraft was on the south edge of a 13;900 ft. terrain bubble. If I would've given the aircraft present heading sooner or a 5 degree right turn; I could've avoided the 13;900 ft. bubble all together.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.