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Attributes | |
ACN | 1588723 |
Time | |
Date | 201810 |
Local Time Of Day | 1201-1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | ZID.ARTCC |
State Reference | IN |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Make Model Name | Baron 58/58TC |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Climb |
Route In Use | Vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | SR22 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | Cruise |
Route In Use | Direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | Enroute Instructor |
Qualification | Air Traffic Control Fully Certified |
Experience | Air Traffic Control Time Certified In Pos 1 (yrs) 4.0 |
Person 2 | |
Function | Pilot Flying |
Experience | Flight Crew Last 90 Days 30 Flight Crew Total 1500 Flight Crew Type 200 |
Events | |
Anomaly | ATC Issue All Types Conflict Airborne Conflict Deviation - Altitude Excursion From Assigned Altitude Deviation - Procedural Clearance Deviation - Procedural Published Material / Policy Inflight Event / Encounter CFTT / CFIT |
Narrative:
Aircraft X was a departure who was climbing VFR and called for an IFR clearance in the air. Aircraft Y was level flight at 6;000 feet. I was training a developmental (trainee) at the time. The developmental gave aircraft X a squawk code and told him to maintain VFR aob 5;500 feet. The pilot read this back. The developmental then cleared aircraft X. I immediately noticed that he did not check ask the pilot if he could maintain his own terrain/obstruction avoidance. I prompted the trainee and he immediately corrected the clearance. The pilot was instructed eventually to turn 15 degrees left 'vectors for climb'. The pilot answered 'roger and I just want to verify you are keeping me at 5;000.' the trainee read back 'affirmative maintain 5;000 and turn 15 degrees left.' a couple minutes later the pilot climbed to 5;300 feet and the trainee verified his altimeter setting. After verification of correct altimeter setting the trainee told aircraft X that he was 300 feet high (now in conflict alert with aircraft Y). The pilot said 'affirmative I climbed because you cleared me as filed.' we read the brasher statement and informed management of the loss of separation.the first issue was the clearance below the minimum vectoring altitude. In this case my trainee has been training for quite a awhile and this was not a mistake he has made recently. It caught me off guard and I was not able to stop the clearance from being issued. I did not immediately and corrected the trainee however the clearance had already been issued. In the future I need to work on not being 'caught off guard' and ready to stop a clearance at any time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZID Center Controller instructor reported the trainee issued an IFR clearance to an aircraft below the Minimum Vectoring Altitude. Subsequently the aircraft climbed above their assigned altitude in conflict with an overflight.
Narrative: Aircraft X was a departure who was climbing VFR and called for an IFR clearance in the air. Aircraft Y was level flight at 6;000 feet. I was training a developmental (trainee) at the time. The developmental gave Aircraft X a squawk code and told him to maintain VFR AOB 5;500 feet. The pilot read this back. The developmental then cleared Aircraft X. I immediately noticed that he did not check ask the pilot if he could maintain his own terrain/obstruction avoidance. I prompted the trainee and he immediately corrected the clearance. The pilot was instructed eventually to turn 15 degrees left 'vectors for climb'. The pilot answered 'roger and I just want to verify you are keeping me at 5;000.' The trainee read back 'affirmative maintain 5;000 and turn 15 degrees left.' A couple minutes later the pilot climbed to 5;300 feet and the trainee verified his altimeter setting. After verification of correct altimeter setting the trainee told Aircraft X that he was 300 feet high (Now in Conflict Alert with Aircraft Y). The pilot said 'affirmative I climbed because you cleared me as filed.' We read the brasher statement and informed management of the loss of separation.The first issue was the clearance below the Minimum Vectoring Altitude. In this case my trainee has been training for quite a awhile and this was not a mistake he has made recently. It caught me off guard and I was not able to stop the clearance from being issued. I did not immediately and corrected the trainee however the clearance had already been issued. In the future I need to work on not being 'caught off guard' and ready to stop a clearance at any time.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.