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Attributes | |
ACN | 175408 |
Time | |
Date | 199104 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pom |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4500 msl bound upper : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 10 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 175408 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
ATC asked me to phone after landing. I called and was advised I inadvertently encroached upon the corner of the TCA (lax) by 4 mi prior to incursion (by 15 mins). I asked ontario approach to vector me around TCA. I was told that I was #2 to 'standby'. 25 calls later my call was still unanswered. I switched to burbank approach and was told to call upon landing. My error was in waiting for ontario approach to answer my calls. My second error was in waiting to be vectored around the TCA. I should have navigated myself. That is what I will do in the future. ATC's error was in losing track of radio requests and in not getting back to people they have asked to 'standby'.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA PLT REQUESTS VECTORS AROUND TCA. TOLD 'STANDBY'. PENETRATES TCA.
Narrative: ATC ASKED ME TO PHONE AFTER LNDG. I CALLED AND WAS ADVISED I INADVERTENTLY ENCROACHED UPON THE CORNER OF THE TCA (LAX) BY 4 MI PRIOR TO INCURSION (BY 15 MINS). I ASKED ONTARIO APCH TO VECTOR ME AROUND TCA. I WAS TOLD THAT I WAS #2 TO 'STANDBY'. 25 CALLS LATER MY CALL WAS STILL UNANSWERED. I SWITCHED TO BURBANK APCH AND WAS TOLD TO CALL UPON LNDG. MY ERROR WAS IN WAITING FOR ONTARIO APCH TO ANSWER MY CALLS. MY SEC ERROR WAS IN WAITING TO BE VECTORED AROUND THE TCA. I SHOULD HAVE NAVIGATED MYSELF. THAT IS WHAT I WILL DO IN THE FUTURE. ATC'S ERROR WAS IN LOSING TRACK OF RADIO REQUESTS AND IN NOT GETTING BACK TO PEOPLE THEY HAVE ASKED TO 'STANDBY'.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.