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Attributes | |
ACN | 175557 |
Time | |
Date | 199104 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : omn |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 16500 msl bound upper : 16500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zjx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zjx |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 25000 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 175557 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier flight en route mco. Flight cleared to descend to 12000' by ZJX. When out of 16500', TCASII TA was heard, followed soon after by RA by TCASII, indicating a climb command of 1500 FPM. Aircraft was flown as commanded by TCASII until conflict was resolved when descent to 12000' was resumed. ATC was advised of conflict and indicated they were aware of VFR aircraft, but due to workload at the time were unable to issue a timely warning. The entire issue of this type of conflict could be eliminated if ATC would discontinue issuing clrncs through known VFR occupied altitude. This practice has resulted in the largest # of personal near misses in my 36 yrs of flying.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG REVERSED DESCENT IN RESPONSE TO TCASII RA.
Narrative: ACR FLT ENRTE MCO. FLT CLRED TO DSND TO 12000' BY ZJX. WHEN OUT OF 16500', TCASII TA WAS HEARD, FOLLOWED SOON AFTER BY RA BY TCASII, INDICATING A CLB COMMAND OF 1500 FPM. ACFT WAS FLOWN AS COMMANDED BY TCASII UNTIL CONFLICT WAS RESOLVED WHEN DSNT TO 12000' WAS RESUMED. ATC WAS ADVISED OF CONFLICT AND INDICATED THEY WERE AWARE OF VFR ACFT, BUT DUE TO WORKLOAD AT THE TIME WERE UNABLE TO ISSUE A TIMELY WARNING. THE ENTIRE ISSUE OF THIS TYPE OF CONFLICT COULD BE ELIMINATED IF ATC WOULD DISCONTINUE ISSUING CLRNCS THROUGH KNOWN VFR OCCUPIED ALT. THIS PRACTICE HAS RESULTED IN THE LARGEST # OF PERSONAL NEAR MISSES IN MY 36 YRS OF FLYING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.