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Attributes | |
ACN | 175584 |
Time | |
Date | 199104 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : lch |
State Reference | LA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 31000 msl bound upper : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zhu |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 10000 |
ASRS Report | 175584 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
At FL350, approximately 50N east of lake charles VOR on a center vector for thunderstorm avoidance, we heard a clearance for, 'abc, descend to FL310.' we were air carrier X flight abc. I replied, 'understand air carrier X abc descend to FL310.' there was a great deal of static on frequency and we heard no reply from controller. I called again to confirm descent clearance. This time controller responded, 'abc descend not to 310. I don't have time to discuss need for descent.' I replied I didn't want a discussion, just a confirmation that air carrier X abc was cleared to FL310. Apparently the controller's workload was so high he felt he did not have time for normal, safe, professional communications! Very unsafe practice.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR LGT ASKS FOR CLRNC CONFIRMATION BECAUSE ARTCC RADAR CTLR FAILED TO USE THE FULL CALL SIGN.
Narrative: AT FL350, APPROX 50N E OF LAKE CHARLES VOR ON A CENTER VECTOR FOR TSTM AVOIDANCE, WE HEARD A CLRNC FOR, 'ABC, DSND TO FL310.' WE WERE ACR X FLT ABC. I REPLIED, 'UNDERSTAND ACR X ABC DSND TO FL310.' THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF STATIC ON FREQ AND WE HEARD NO REPLY FROM CTLR. I CALLED AGAIN TO CONFIRM DSNT CLRNC. THIS TIME CTLR RESPONDED, 'ABC DSND NOT TO 310. I DON'T HAVE TIME TO DISCUSS NEED FOR DSNT.' I REPLIED I DIDN'T WANT A DISCUSSION, JUST A CONFIRMATION THAT ACR X ABC WAS CLRED TO FL310. APPARENTLY THE CTLR'S WORKLOAD WAS SO HIGH HE FELT HE DID NOT HAVE TIME FOR NORMAL, SAFE, PROFESSIONAL COMS! VERY UNSAFE PRACTICE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.