Narrative:

Cleared profile descent 24/25. Told cross symon at 320 KTS and keep speed until sadde, then 250 KTS. Xed symon at 12000'/320 KTS. I had explained that sadde was coming fast. At this point there was no response that indicated the captain didn't understand what was happening next. Approaching sadde (about 17 DME off fim) we were still at 320 and 120000'. I said 'you'd better slow down turn is coming fast.' now the scramble really started, he still was looking at his profile plate trying to ??? We went through sadde at 12000'/320 KTS on same heading we'd been tracking. (Approximately 150 degree). I finally told him to take heading about 050 degree now and slow down and get down. Missed bayst altitude about 1000' (11000') and approximately 270-280 KTS. We were given 070 degree off smo, visibility 24R. WX was good but was smoggy and sun was setting. Told him he wouldn't be able to see runway when he turned final and that marker was tuned and idented. He acknowledged. Started base turn about 5500' and fast. We were given traffic as an light transport on approach to 24L. We couldn't find traffic in turn to base leg and now he started looking for runway visly. No way, couldn't even second airport facility due to sun haze glare. I told him we were coming up on runway 24R ('look at ADF') but he wanted to look out window instead. I'm trying to give him vectors and airspds and look for other aircraft and getting no positive response. Finally turned toward airport but we already xed both 34S and almost xed over 25R before getting turned back and under control. The tower advised us that we were quite a way (south) past 24S. I said I understand and we were correcting. Tower then changed us to 24L and other aircraft to 24R. Rest of approach uneventful. After parking checklist, I told him he 'better learn to ask for help, that's what the other crew members are here for.' in my opinion the man shouldn't be a captain period! He's timid, incompetent, and he won't listen to other crew members for help. Had we been any closer to landing and still been floundering, I would have taken the plane from him. With a new or weak first officer this guy is jeopardizing lives. He later acknowledged that he couldn't see with sun glare. We also had very competent second officer, so I felt I had some backup for myself.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR MG FLC EXPERIENCES VARIOUS DEVIATION ON APCH TO LAX.

Narrative: CLRED PROFILE DSNT 24/25. TOLD CROSS SYMON AT 320 KTS AND KEEP SPD UNTIL SADDE, THEN 250 KTS. XED SYMON AT 12000'/320 KTS. I HAD EXPLAINED THAT SADDE WAS COMING FAST. AT THIS POINT THERE WAS NO RESPONSE THAT INDICATED THE CAPT DIDN'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS HAPPENING NEXT. APCHING SADDE (ABOUT 17 DME OFF FIM) WE WERE STILL AT 320 AND 120000'. I SAID 'YOU'D BETTER SLOW DOWN TURN IS COMING FAST.' NOW THE SCRAMBLE REALLY STARTED, HE STILL WAS LOOKING AT HIS PROFILE PLATE TRYING TO ??? WE WENT THROUGH SADDE AT 12000'/320 KTS ON SAME HDG WE'D BEEN TRACKING. (APPROX 150 DEG). I FINALLY TOLD HIM TO TAKE HDG ABOUT 050 DEG NOW AND SLOW DOWN AND GET DOWN. MISSED BAYST ALT ABOUT 1000' (11000') AND APPROX 270-280 KTS. WE WERE GIVEN 070 DEG OFF SMO, VIS 24R. WX WAS GOOD BUT WAS SMOGGY AND SUN WAS SETTING. TOLD HIM HE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SEE RWY WHEN HE TURNED FINAL AND THAT MARKER WAS TUNED AND IDENTED. HE ACKNOWLEDGED. STARTED BASE TURN ABOUT 5500' AND FAST. WE WERE GIVEN TFC AS AN LTT ON APCH TO 24L. WE COULDN'T FIND TFC IN TURN TO BASE LEG AND NOW HE STARTED LOOKING FOR RWY VISLY. NO WAY, COULDN'T EVEN SEC ARPT FAC DUE TO SUN HAZE GLARE. I TOLD HIM WE WERE COMING UP ON RWY 24R ('LOOK AT ADF') BUT HE WANTED TO LOOK OUT WINDOW INSTEAD. I'M TRYING TO GIVE HIM VECTORS AND AIRSPDS AND LOOK FOR OTHER ACFT AND GETTING NO POSITIVE RESPONSE. FINALLY TURNED TOWARD ARPT BUT WE ALREADY XED BOTH 34S AND ALMOST XED OVER 25R BEFORE GETTING TURNED BACK AND UNDER CTL. THE TWR ADVISED US THAT WE WERE QUITE A WAY (S) PAST 24S. I SAID I UNDERSTAND AND WE WERE CORRECTING. TWR THEN CHANGED US TO 24L AND OTHER ACFT TO 24R. REST OF APCH UNEVENTFUL. AFTER PARKING CHKLIST, I TOLD HIM HE 'BETTER LEARN TO ASK FOR HELP, THAT'S WHAT THE OTHER CREW MEMBERS ARE HERE FOR.' IN MY OPINION THE MAN SHOULDN'T BE A CAPT PERIOD! HE'S TIMID, INCOMPETENT, AND HE WON'T LISTEN TO OTHER CREW MEMBERS FOR HELP. HAD WE BEEN ANY CLOSER TO LNDG AND STILL BEEN FLOUNDERING, I WOULD HAVE TAKEN THE PLANE FROM HIM. WITH A NEW OR WEAK F/O THIS GUY IS JEOPARDIZING LIVES. HE LATER ACKNOWLEDGED THAT HE COULDN'T SEE WITH SUN GLARE. WE ALSO HAD VERY COMPETENT S/O, SO I FELT I HAD SOME BACKUP FOR MYSELF.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.