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Attributes | |
ACN | 177036 |
Time | |
Date | 199104 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : syr |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 19300 msl bound upper : 20000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob tower : pbi |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : radar |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 24 |
ASRS Report | 177036 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 19200 vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Air carrier X and air carrier Y both inbound to roc. Were over syr at FL200 and FL210. Airspace was compressed because of military use of R5203. Departure off syr compounded problem. Short period of time to get 2 inbnds down. Departure was turned left, climb to 13000'. Air carrier X given 10 degree right turn and descent to 14000'. Air carrier Y was given descent clearance to FL190 when air carrier X thought to be leaving FL190. Air carrier Y much faster rate of descent and apparently air carrier X was only leaving FL193 when air carrier Y given descent clearance. If this was case, poor judgement on my part. Air carrier X was small transport.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X HAD LESS THAN STANDARD SEPARATION FROM ACR Y. SYSTEM ERROR.
Narrative: ACR X AND ACR Y BOTH INBND TO ROC. WERE OVER SYR AT FL200 AND FL210. AIRSPACE WAS COMPRESSED BECAUSE OF MIL USE OF R5203. DEP OFF SYR COMPOUNDED PROB. SHORT PERIOD OF TIME TO GET 2 INBNDS DOWN. DEP WAS TURNED LEFT, CLB TO 13000'. ACR X GIVEN 10 DEG RIGHT TURN AND DSNT TO 14000'. ACR Y WAS GIVEN DSNT CLRNC TO FL190 WHEN ACR X THOUGHT TO BE LEAVING FL190. ACR Y MUCH FASTER RATE OF DSNT AND APPARENTLY ACR X WAS ONLY LEAVING FL193 WHEN ACR Y GIVEN DSNT CLRNC. IF THIS WAS CASE, POOR JUDGEMENT ON MY PART. ACR X WAS SMT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.