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Attributes | |
ACN | 177205 |
Time | |
Date | 199105 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax tower : isp |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 1600 |
ASRS Report | 177205 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On a flight from smf to lax, we were cleared fim 6 (enclosed) STAR which predisposed me (captain) to expect north complex landing based on approach geometry. We were subsequently cleared to follow an air carrier large transport Y to runway 25R. The first officer was flying. The ILS did not match up to landing runway, then I remembered the commercial chart terminal page note 2. This set of instructions is unnecessarily complex and confusion. I suspect it was written by lawyers rather than controllers/pilots. A decidedly poor operation in my opinion.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR FLT CREW ATTEMPTS WRONG RWY VISUAL APCH AT LAX.
Narrative: ON A FLT FROM SMF TO LAX, WE WERE CLRED FIM 6 (ENCLOSED) STAR WHICH PREDISPOSED ME (CAPT) TO EXPECT N COMPLEX LNDG BASED ON APCH GEOMETRY. WE WERE SUBSEQUENTLY CLRED TO FOLLOW AN ACR LGT Y TO RWY 25R. THE F/O WAS FLYING. THE ILS DID NOT MATCH UP TO LNDG RWY, THEN I REMEMBERED THE COMMERCIAL CHART TERMINAL PAGE NOTE 2. THIS SET OF INSTRUCTIONS IS UNNECESSARILY COMPLEX AND CONFUSION. I SUSPECT IT WAS WRITTEN BY LAWYERS RATHER THAN CTLRS/PLTS. A DECIDEDLY POOR OPERATION IN MY OPINION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.