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Attributes | |
ACN | 178954 |
Time | |
Date | 199105 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : avp |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5500 msl bound upper : 5500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : avp |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 58 flight time type : 58 |
ASRS Report | 178954 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : approach |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified cockpit |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 75 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was on a heading of 089 degrees on my student long x-country. This leg was from ipt to 44N. Shortly after ipt, I requested radar advisories from ZNY and they assigned a squawk. Soon they xferred me to wilkes-barre approach on 126.3, who radar idented me. While I was within the TRSA, at about xa:51Z, an small aircraft passed directly in front and slightly above, from right to left. It appeared to be nwbnd. Me: 'approach, did you see that traffic that just passed right in front of me from right to left?' approach: 'negative.' me: 'he passed about 75' above and 300' in front of me.' approach: no response. Radio traffic had been very light on the frequency and continued to be light thereafter. The high wings of my aircraft blocked my view of the other aircraft, both before and after its passage, so I could not have seen it, even if my traffic scan had been perfect. I was on the 'good vision' side of the other aircraft and it did not appear to make any evasive maneuver. I recorded all the radio xmissions for the entire flight on a microcassette records, so the facts were very clear when I later transcribed the tape. I am concerned that approach did not acknowledge seeing even a primary target and offer me an opportunity to evade him. Maybe I'm expecting too much from the system, but this one was far too close for comfort. Later, after I was handed off to ny approach, they pointed out 1 mode C glider and several primary target gliders, causing me to take an avoidance maneuver for both our sakes. That's what I have expected from radar advisories.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SPI ON A CROSS-COUNTRY FLT HAS NMAC WITHIN TRSA.
Narrative: I WAS ON A HDG OF 089 DEGS ON MY STUDENT LONG X-COUNTRY. THIS LEG WAS FROM IPT TO 44N. SHORTLY AFTER IPT, I REQUESTED RADAR ADVISORIES FROM ZNY AND THEY ASSIGNED A SQUAWK. SOON THEY XFERRED ME TO WILKES-BARRE APCH ON 126.3, WHO RADAR IDENTED ME. WHILE I WAS WITHIN THE TRSA, AT ABOUT XA:51Z, AN SMA PASSED DIRECTLY IN FRONT AND SLIGHTLY ABOVE, FROM RIGHT TO LEFT. IT APPEARED TO BE NWBND. ME: 'APCH, DID YOU SEE THAT TFC THAT JUST PASSED RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME FROM RIGHT TO LEFT?' APCH: 'NEGATIVE.' ME: 'HE PASSED ABOUT 75' ABOVE AND 300' IN FRONT OF ME.' APCH: NO RESPONSE. RADIO TFC HAD BEEN VERY LIGHT ON THE FREQ AND CONTINUED TO BE LIGHT THEREAFTER. THE HIGH WINGS OF MY ACFT BLOCKED MY VIEW OF THE OTHER ACFT, BOTH BEFORE AND AFTER ITS PASSAGE, SO I COULD NOT HAVE SEEN IT, EVEN IF MY TFC SCAN HAD BEEN PERFECT. I WAS ON THE 'GOOD VISION' SIDE OF THE OTHER ACFT AND IT DID NOT APPEAR TO MAKE ANY EVASIVE MANEUVER. I RECORDED ALL THE RADIO XMISSIONS FOR THE ENTIRE FLT ON A MICROCASSETTE RECORDS, SO THE FACTS WERE VERY CLR WHEN I LATER TRANSCRIBED THE TAPE. I AM CONCERNED THAT APCH DID NOT ACKNOWLEDGE SEEING EVEN A PRIMARY TARGET AND OFFER ME AN OPPORTUNITY TO EVADE HIM. MAYBE I'M EXPECTING TOO MUCH FROM THE SYS, BUT THIS ONE WAS FAR TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT. LATER, AFTER I WAS HANDED OFF TO NY APCH, THEY POINTED OUT 1 MODE C GLIDER AND SEVERAL PRIMARY TARGET GLIDERS, CAUSING ME TO TAKE AN AVOIDANCE MANEUVER FOR BOTH OUR SAKES. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE EXPECTED FROM RADAR ADVISORIES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.