Air carrier widebody transport wrong runway approach landing from a canarsie visual to runway 13R at...

Attributes
ACN	180908
Time
Date	199106
Day	Mon
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : jfk
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 300
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : jfk
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other
Flight Phase	descent : approach descent other landing other
Route In Use	approach : visual
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : commercial
Experience	controller non radar : 3 controller supervisory : 1 flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 1200
ASRS Report	180908
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other other spatial deviation
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	controller : issued new clearance none taken : anomaly accepted
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

We were landing after an all-nighter. The captain was new to the aircraft as was the second officer. We were instructed to execute the VOR 13R approach (canarsie). Passing the VOR we acquired 'the lead-in lights' and continued to the runway. Unfortunately these lead-INS go to 13L, we never saw the 13R lead-INS. At 300' we realized that we were lined up for the wrong runway and asked tower if 13L would be ok. He said yes. We landed on 13L uneventfully but a bit shaken. We thought that the lead-INS would only be for the runway in use, wrong! We were landing into the morning sun and couldn't see well anyway. Additionally, we were tired from the all-nighter. The canarsie is an unsafe approach under idea conditions. I don't think it is safe to have the lead-in lights on for a runway not in use. This approach completely disregards the stabilized approach concept. This approach should be discontinued in my opinion.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: ACR WDB WRONG RWY APCH LNDG FROM A CANARSIE VISUAL TO RWY 13R AT JFK.

Narrative: WE WERE LNDG AFTER AN ALL-NIGHTER. THE CAPT WAS NEW TO THE ACFT AS WAS THE S/O. WE WERE INSTRUCTED TO EXECUTE THE VOR 13R APCH (CANARSIE). PASSING THE VOR WE ACQUIRED 'THE LEAD-IN LIGHTS' AND CONTINUED TO THE RWY. UNFORTUNATELY THESE LEAD-INS GO TO 13L, WE NEVER SAW THE 13R LEAD-INS. AT 300' WE REALIZED THAT WE WERE LINED UP FOR THE WRONG RWY AND ASKED TWR IF 13L WOULD BE OK. HE SAID YES. WE LANDED ON 13L UNEVENTFULLY BUT A BIT SHAKEN. WE THOUGHT THAT THE LEAD-INS WOULD ONLY BE FOR THE RWY IN USE, WRONG! WE WERE LNDG INTO THE MORNING SUN AND COULDN'T SEE WELL ANYWAY. ADDITIONALLY, WE WERE TIRED FROM THE ALL-NIGHTER. THE CANARSIE IS AN UNSAFE APCH UNDER IDEA CONDITIONS. I DON'T THINK IT IS SAFE TO HAVE THE LEAD-IN LIGHTS ON FOR A RWY NOT IN USE. THIS APCH COMPLETELY DISREGARDS THE STABILIZED APCH CONCEPT. THIS APCH SHOULD BE DISCONTINUED IN MY OPINION.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

Air carrier widebody transport wrong runway approach landing from a canarsie visual to runway 13R at jfk.