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Attributes | |
ACN | 184083 |
Time | |
Date | 199107 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : gcn |
State Reference | AZ |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Recip Eng |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 2100 flight time type : 100 |
ASRS Report | 184083 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | observation : air carrier inspector |
Qualification | other other : other |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified cockpit |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
I flew from burbank, ca to grand canyon, az. I had 9 passenger on board. I landed and pulled into the parking area. After exiting the airplane and while deplaning the passenger, I was approached by 2 FAA inspectors, Y and Y. X stated that he wanted to conduct a ramp inspection and I told him that I needed to get my passenger to the terminal. He cut my explanation off by saying 'no, no, hold on, this will only take a couple of mins and we'll be done'. He said that I could drop the passenger off at the terminal and then return to the airplane, or we could get it over with now. Having never undergone a ramp inspection before and based upon assurance that it would only take a couple of mins, I elected to conduct the inspection right then and there. A decision I regret because of my passenger' inconvenience and one I would not repeat under similar circumstances. Neither inspector offered to show me any identify, however, I could see their FAA name tags affixed to their shirts. He asked me if we were doing a charter for another company. I told him we were doing a charter for abc. He said that that was good and told me they needed to do a ramp inspection on the abc flight which hadn't landed yet. He asked me for and was shown my pilot and medical certificates. All of the events to this point took place outside of the aircraft by the rear door. He then asked for the airworthiness certificate and registration. I climbed on the door stair and reached between the rear seats to retrieve the documents from the rear bulkhead. I climbed off of the stars and handed the documents to one of the inspectors, I don't recall which one. They then wanted to board the aircraft to continue the inspection. At this point all 3 of us entered the airplane. Neither inspector showed me FAA form 110A, as required by far 135.75(a), and at no time did I ever invite either inspector to come aboard the airplane. He asked for and was shown the poh including the weight and balance data. He asked to see the operations manual and had a difficult time finding atco certificate number. The operations manual I carry with me is in the form LF loose, double sided copies, secured in a large envelope. He wanted to know who issued me the manual he was looking through. I told him that the original was issued by abc, but I had made a copy of it so it would easily fit inside of my flight bag. I would like to point out that during the inspection, most all of questions were in a firm, no nonsense, interrogative tone, one that was most definitely intimidating. I must admit that I was indeed intimidated and somewhat frightened by the inspection process. If I could choose 1 word to describe how I felt, it would be 'overwhelmed'.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ATX SMT LANDED GCN. 2 FAA INSPECTORS CONDUCTED RAMP CHK OF ACFT AND PLT.
Narrative: I FLEW FROM BURBANK, CA TO GRAND CANYON, AZ. I HAD 9 PAX ON BOARD. I LANDED AND PULLED INTO THE PARKING AREA. AFTER EXITING THE AIRPLANE AND WHILE DEPLANING THE PAX, I WAS APCHED BY 2 FAA INSPECTORS, Y AND Y. X STATED THAT HE WANTED TO CONDUCT A RAMP INSPECTION AND I TOLD HIM THAT I NEEDED TO GET MY PAX TO THE TERMINAL. HE CUT MY EXPLANATION OFF BY SAYING 'NO, NO, HOLD ON, THIS WILL ONLY TAKE A COUPLE OF MINS AND WE'LL BE DONE'. HE SAID THAT I COULD DROP THE PAX OFF AT THE TERMINAL AND THEN RETURN TO THE AIRPLANE, OR WE COULD GET IT OVER WITH NOW. HAVING NEVER UNDERGONE A RAMP INSPECTION BEFORE AND BASED UPON ASSURANCE THAT IT WOULD ONLY TAKE A COUPLE OF MINS, I ELECTED TO CONDUCT THE INSPECTION RIGHT THEN AND THERE. A DECISION I REGRET BECAUSE OF MY PAX' INCONVENIENCE AND ONE I WOULD NOT REPEAT UNDER SIMILAR CIRCUMSTANCES. NEITHER INSPECTOR OFFERED TO SHOW ME ANY IDENT, HOWEVER, I COULD SEE THEIR FAA NAME TAGS AFFIXED TO THEIR SHIRTS. HE ASKED ME IF WE WERE DOING A CHARTER FOR ANOTHER COMPANY. I TOLD HIM WE WERE DOING A CHARTER FOR ABC. HE SAID THAT THAT WAS GOOD AND TOLD ME THEY NEEDED TO DO A RAMP INSPECTION ON THE ABC FLT WHICH HADN'T LANDED YET. HE ASKED ME FOR AND WAS SHOWN MY PLT AND MEDICAL CERTIFICATES. ALL OF THE EVENTS TO THIS POINT TOOK PLACE OUTSIDE OF THE ACFT BY THE REAR DOOR. HE THEN ASKED FOR THE AIRWORTHINESS CERTIFICATE AND REGISTRATION. I CLBED ON THE DOOR STAIR AND REACHED BTWN THE REAR SEATS TO RETRIEVE THE DOCUMENTS FROM THE REAR BULKHEAD. I CLBED OFF OF THE STARS AND HANDED THE DOCUMENTS TO ONE OF THE INSPECTORS, I DON'T RECALL WHICH ONE. THEY THEN WANTED TO BOARD THE ACFT TO CONTINUE THE INSPECTION. AT THIS POINT ALL 3 OF US ENTERED THE AIRPLANE. NEITHER INSPECTOR SHOWED ME FAA FORM 110A, AS REQUIRED BY FAR 135.75(A), AND AT NO TIME DID I EVER INVITE EITHER INSPECTOR TO COME ABOARD THE AIRPLANE. HE ASKED FOR AND WAS SHOWN THE POH INCLUDING THE WT AND BALANCE DATA. HE ASKED TO SEE THE OPS MANUAL AND HAD A DIFFICULT TIME FINDING ATCO CERTIFICATE NUMBER. THE OPS MANUAL I CARRY WITH ME IS IN THE FORM LF LOOSE, DOUBLE SIDED COPIES, SECURED IN A LARGE ENVELOPE. HE WANTED TO KNOW WHO ISSUED ME THE MANUAL HE WAS LOOKING THROUGH. I TOLD HIM THAT THE ORIGINAL WAS ISSUED BY ABC, BUT I HAD MADE A COPY OF IT SO IT WOULD EASILY FIT INSIDE OF MY FLT BAG. I WOULD LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT DURING THE INSPECTION, MOST ALL OF QUESTIONS WERE IN A FIRM, NO NONSENSE, INTERROGATIVE TONE, ONE THAT WAS MOST DEFINITELY INTIMIDATING. I MUST ADMIT THAT I WAS INDEED INTIMIDATED AND SOMEWHAT FRIGHTENED BY THE INSPECTION PROCESS. IF I COULD CHOOSE 1 WORD TO DESCRIBE HOW I FELT, IT WOULD BE 'OVERWHELMED'.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.