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Attributes | |
ACN | 184626 |
Time | |
Date | 199107 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : cvg |
State Reference | OH |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zse |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure : noise abatement |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 8200 flight time type : 3300 |
ASRS Report | 184626 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Received clearance from clearance delivery. Received SID departure then as filed. Set up radios for first fix. Radial off cvg VOR to ape transition. Called ground received taxi instructions to 18L. Reached runway 18L, monitored tower for hold short 1 or 2 arrs. Received 'position and hold runway 18L' from tower. Taxied onto runway completing takeoff checklist. In middle of checklist, tower cleared us for takeoff then gives us a fast lengthy 'after departure' climb instructions for noise abatement. I started to advance power but stopped because I was surprised at the instructions and didn't understand, controller spoke fast. I asked the captain to get climb instructions again. He said let's go I will get them in a min. On takeoff captain again asked for 'say again departure'. We got another fast reply, didn't understand it either. Over to departure. I got heading 150 degree out of it somehow and turned to that heading.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CHANGE TO NOISE ABATEMENT DEP INSTRUCTIONS AFTER CLRNC FOR TKOF.
Narrative: RECEIVED CLRNC FROM CLRNC DELIVERY. RECEIVED SID DEP THEN AS FILED. SET UP RADIOS FOR FIRST FIX. RADIAL OFF CVG VOR TO APE TRANSITION. CALLED GND RECEIVED TAXI INSTRUCTIONS TO 18L. REACHED RWY 18L, MONITORED TWR FOR HOLD SHORT 1 OR 2 ARRS. RECEIVED 'POS AND HOLD RWY 18L' FROM TWR. TAXIED ONTO RWY COMPLETING TKOF CHKLIST. IN MIDDLE OF CHKLIST, TWR CLRED US FOR TKOF THEN GIVES US A FAST LENGTHY 'AFTER DEP' CLB INSTRUCTIONS FOR NOISE ABATEMENT. I STARTED TO ADVANCE PWR BUT STOPPED BECAUSE I WAS SURPRISED AT THE INSTRUCTIONS AND DIDN'T UNDERSTAND, CTLR SPOKE FAST. I ASKED THE CAPT TO GET CLB INSTRUCTIONS AGAIN. HE SAID LET'S GO I WILL GET THEM IN A MIN. ON TKOF CAPT AGAIN ASKED FOR 'SAY AGAIN DEP'. WE GOT ANOTHER FAST REPLY, DIDN'T UNDERSTAND IT EITHER. OVER TO DEP. I GOT HDG 150 DEG OUT OF IT SOMEHOW AND TURNED TO THAT HDG.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.