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Attributes | |
ACN | 185899 |
Time | |
Date | 199108 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mia |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 2900 flight time type : 220 |
ASRS Report | 185899 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We accepted takeoff at Q3 on runway 12. While in position and cleared for takeoff we discovered we could not use Q3 intersection for takeoff. We taxied forward on the runway and said we were going to exit the runway at the next left, because we were not sure if we were legal to depart from that intersection. While we taxied off the runway we noticed #2 engine instruments readings were not proper. We requested taxi back to the gate and a mechanic saw right away that the start lock on the #2 propeller wasn't disengaged and sent us on our way. No write up was made and no maintenance was done. To prevent both situations from happening again I should make sure which intersection I can depart from. Also if maintenance looks at the aircraft we should have them sign the logbook. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information. They had to shut down at the blocks but then they did the company mechanic immediately saw that the #2 propeller was still in flat pitch. He advised them to leave the propellers in reverse longer so the start locks would have time to disengage. Reporter admitted they had not checked the engine RPM as they taxied out.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMMUTER LTT TAXIED INTO POS FOR AN INTXN TKOF THEN DISCOVERED THEY WERE NOT LEGAL TO START TKOF FROM THE INTXN.
Narrative: WE ACCEPTED TKOF AT Q3 ON RWY 12. WHILE IN POS AND CLRED FOR TKOF WE DISCOVERED WE COULD NOT USE Q3 INTXN FOR TKOF. WE TAXIED FORWARD ON THE RWY AND SAID WE WERE GOING TO EXIT THE RWY AT THE NEXT L, BECAUSE WE WERE NOT SURE IF WE WERE LEGAL TO DEPART FROM THAT INTXN. WHILE WE TAXIED OFF THE RWY WE NOTICED #2 ENG INSTS READINGS WERE NOT PROPER. WE REQUESTED TAXI BACK TO THE GATE AND A MECH SAW RIGHT AWAY THAT THE START LOCK ON THE #2 PROP WASN'T DISENGAGED AND SENT US ON OUR WAY. NO WRITE UP WAS MADE AND NO MAINT WAS DONE. TO PREVENT BOTH SITUATIONS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN I SHOULD MAKE SURE WHICH INTXN I CAN DEPART FROM. ALSO IF MAINT LOOKS AT THE ACFT WE SHOULD HAVE THEM SIGN THE LOGBOOK. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO. THEY HAD TO SHUT DOWN AT THE BLOCKS BUT THEN THEY DID THE COMPANY MECH IMMEDIATELY SAW THAT THE #2 PROP WAS STILL IN FLAT PITCH. HE ADVISED THEM TO LEAVE THE PROPS IN REVERSE LONGER SO THE START LOCKS WOULD HAVE TIME TO DISENGAGE. RPTR ADMITTED THEY HAD NOT CHKED THE ENG RPM AS THEY TAXIED OUT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.