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Attributes | |
ACN | 186053 |
Time | |
Date | 199108 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : crl airport : dtw |
State Reference | MI |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11000 msl bound upper : 12000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dtw |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other descent other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 4500 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 186053 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 6300 flight time type : 1300 |
ASRS Report | 185820 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation Operational Deviation |
Narrative:
Cleveland center issued descent clearance to 12000 ft. Level at 12000 we were given frequency change to detroit approach. Checked in with detroit approach, called level 12000 ft. Detroit approach issued descent clearance to 11000 ft with vector heading 040 degree. Both pilots copied 11000 ft and 11000 was set in autoplt altitude selector. Descent was made to 11000 ft. After several mins, detroit approach called us, 'confirm altitude clearance 12000 ft'. I responded, 'negative, cleared to 11000'. Detroit approach issued an immediate vector turn for us and an immediate vector for a commuter airliner. Traffic in the area was normal. The radio frequency was not cluttered. Transmissions were not being blocked.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROX CPR LTT COMMUTER LTT ON VECTORS INTO DTW.
Narrative: CLEVELAND CENTER ISSUED DSCNT CLRNC TO 12000 FT. LEVEL AT 12000 WE WERE GIVEN FREQ CHANGE TO DETROIT APCH. CHKED IN WITH DETROIT APCH, CALLED LEVEL 12000 FT. DETROIT APCH ISSUED DSCNT CLRNC TO 11000 FT WITH VECTOR HDG 040 DEG. BOTH PLTS COPIED 11000 FT AND 11000 WAS SET IN AUTOPLT ALT SELECTOR. DSCNT WAS MADE TO 11000 FT. AFTER SEVERAL MINS, DETROIT APCH CALLED US, 'CONFIRM ALT CLRNC 12000 FT'. I RESPONDED, 'NEGATIVE, CLRED TO 11000'. DETROIT APCH ISSUED AN IMMEDIATE VECTOR TURN FOR US AND AN IMMEDIATE VECTOR FOR A COMMUTER AIRLINER. TFC IN THE AREA WAS NORMAL. THE RADIO FREQ WAS NOT CLUTTERED. TRANSMISSIONS WERE NOT BEING BLOCKED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.