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Company dispatch sent an en route message saying the aircraft had made an illegal departure from lax because the WX radar was MEL'ed inoperative.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 187453 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199108 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lax airport : msp |
| State Reference | CA |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Navigation In Use | Other Other |
| Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 1130 |
| ASRS Report | 187453 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 160 flight time total : 4300 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 187227 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Somewhere near klamouth falls (lmt) we received an ACARS message from dispatch stating that we had departed lax illegally, since our radar was inoperative and we were filed through a known area of thunderstorms. 1) the radar was fine. The color on 1 inch of the last side was turning purple indicating a tube getting weak. 2) the previous captain stated that it worked fine. 3) we were not flying through an area of thunderstorms. Our route went through the corner of an area that could have buildups.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: COMPANY DISPATCH SENT AN ENRTE MESSAGE SAYING THE ACFT HAD MADE AN ILLEGAL DEP FROM LAX BECAUSE THE WX RADAR WAS MEL'ED INOP.
Narrative: SOMEWHERE NEAR KLAMOUTH FALLS (LMT) WE RECEIVED AN ACARS MESSAGE FROM DISPATCH STATING THAT WE HAD DEPARTED LAX ILLEGALLY, SINCE OUR RADAR WAS INOP AND WE WERE FILED THROUGH A KNOWN AREA OF TSTMS. 1) THE RADAR WAS FINE. THE COLOR ON 1 INCH OF THE LAST SIDE WAS TURNING PURPLE INDICATING A TUBE GETTING WEAK. 2) THE PREVIOUS CAPT STATED THAT IT WORKED FINE. 3) WE WERE NOT FLYING THROUGH AN AREA OF TSTMS. OUR RTE WENT THROUGH THE CORNER OF AN AREA THAT COULD HAVE BUILDUPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.