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Aircraft equipment problem creates a return land situation that is complicated by PIC's intransigent attitude regarding aircraft situation in response to ATC inquiries.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 187516 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199108 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dtw |
| State Reference | MI |
| Altitude | msl bound lower : 13000 msl bound upper : 13000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob tracon : dtw artcc : zlc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | cruise other descent : approach descent other |
| Route In Use | enroute : on vectors enroute airway : zob |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 19000 flight time type : 9000 |
| ASRS Report | 187516 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Aircraft |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
During climb out, had engine problem and wanted to return. We had just been handed off from departure to cle center and actually were working and evaluating the problem at the time of handoff, when we said we wanted to return. It took considerable time to coordinate a handoff back to departure (or now approach control). In the meantime, we are going away from the airport with an engine problem. Further, when on approach control, we were bothered with questions while we were very busy (questions from approach control and again from ground control). A better or quicker handoff procedure would have helped and also not having controllers asking questions of us that they could get from the company.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACFT EQUIP PROBLEM CREATES A RETURN LAND SITUATION THAT IS COMPLICATED BY PIC'S INTRANSIGENT ATTITUDE REGARDING ACFT SITUATION IN RESPONSE TO ATC INQUIRIES.
Narrative: DURING CLBOUT, HAD ENG PROBLEM AND WANTED TO RETURN. WE HAD JUST BEEN HANDED OFF FROM DEP TO CLE CENTER AND ACTUALLY WERE WORKING AND EVALUATING THE PROBLEM AT THE TIME OF HDOF, WHEN WE SAID WE WANTED TO RETURN. IT TOOK CONSIDERABLE TIME TO COORDINATE A HDOF BACK TO DEP (OR NOW APCH CTL). IN THE MEANTIME, WE ARE GOING AWAY FROM THE ARPT WITH AN ENG PROBLEM. FURTHER, WHEN ON APCH CTL, WE WERE BOTHERED WITH QUESTIONS WHILE WE WERE VERY BUSY (QUESTIONS FROM APCH CTL AND AGAIN FROM GND CTL). A BETTER OR QUICKER HDOF PROC WOULD HAVE HELPED AND ALSO NOT HAVING CTLRS ASKING QUESTIONS OF US THAT THEY COULD GET FROM THE COMPANY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.