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Attributes | |
ACN | 187943 |
Time | |
Date | 199108 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : gjt |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 1500 agl bound upper : 1500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : gjt |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach other |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : straight in approach : visual |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 9750 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 187943 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : far other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 4000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
On flight from denver to grand junction on aug/fri/91, we had a near midair with an air carrier commuter light transport while on a visual approach to runway 11. An FAA inspector was performing a safety inspection from the jump seat. We were on a left downwind to runway 11 when the tower controller cleared us to land. Turning left base the tower advised us of VFR traffic on a 10 mi final to 11. We called negative contact and reconfirmed our clearance to land. During my turn to final (5-6 mi from the threshold) the FAA inspector called out the light transport traffic at our 12:30 position and just below us. I estimate the separation was 500 ft vertically and less than 1 mi. Upon acquiring the light transport visually I immediately stopped my left turn and descent, rolling into a 30 degree bank to the right in order to avoid a collision. After we took evasive action the tower asked us to 'extend our base'. We made a right 360 degree to realign on final as the light transport landed in front of us. Visibility was very good (20-30 mi). The tower had cleared both airplanes to land on the same runway at the same time and failed to give us separation when well within his sight. Fortunately for us the FAA inspector saw the traffic from his elevated position looking down over our shoulders. He gave us the extra seconds we needed to avoid a collision. He also said that he was going to pull the ATC tapes for the investigation. Even though it was a non radar environment, the controller failed in his duty to separate traffic close to the runway. Other crews have complained of similar incidents in grand junction. It's only a matter of time (our medium large transport was non TCASII).
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: POTENTIAL CONFLICT WITH LTSS BTWN 2 ACR ACFT, BOTH ON VISUAL APCHS AND CLRED TO LAND ON THE SAME RWY. NO INDICATION FROM TWR SO FAR AS WHO WAS #1 OR WHO WAS THE SUCCEEDING ACFT.
Narrative: ON FLT FROM DENVER TO GRAND JUNCTION ON AUG/FRI/91, WE HAD A NEAR MIDAIR WITH AN ACR COMMUTER LTT WHILE ON A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 11. AN FAA INSPECTOR WAS PERFORMING A SAFETY INSPECTION FROM THE JUMP SEAT. WE WERE ON A L DOWNWIND TO RWY 11 WHEN THE TWR CTLR CLRED US TO LAND. TURNING L BASE THE TWR ADVISED US OF VFR TFC ON A 10 MI FINAL TO 11. WE CALLED NEGATIVE CONTACT AND RECONFIRMED OUR CLRNC TO LAND. DURING MY TURN TO FINAL (5-6 MI FROM THE THRESHOLD) THE FAA INSPECTOR CALLED OUT THE LTT TFC AT OUR 12:30 POS AND JUST BELOW US. I ESTIMATE THE SEPARATION WAS 500 FT VERTICALLY AND LESS THAN 1 MI. UPON ACQUIRING THE LTT VISUALLY I IMMEDIATELY STOPPED MY L TURN AND DSCNT, ROLLING INTO A 30 DEG BANK TO THE R IN ORDER TO AVOID A COLLISION. AFTER WE TOOK EVASIVE ACTION THE TWR ASKED US TO 'EXTEND OUR BASE'. WE MADE A R 360 DEG TO REALIGN ON FINAL AS THE LTT LANDED IN FRONT OF US. VISIBILITY WAS VERY GOOD (20-30 MI). THE TWR HAD CLRED BOTH AIRPLANES TO LAND ON THE SAME RWY AT THE SAME TIME AND FAILED TO GIVE US SEPARATION WHEN WELL WITHIN HIS SIGHT. FORTUNATELY FOR US THE FAA INSPECTOR SAW THE TFC FROM HIS ELEVATED POS LOOKING DOWN OVER OUR SHOULDERS. HE GAVE US THE EXTRA SECONDS WE NEEDED TO AVOID A COLLISION. HE ALSO SAID THAT HE WAS GOING TO PULL THE ATC TAPES FOR THE INVESTIGATION. EVEN THOUGH IT WAS A NON RADAR ENVIRONMENT, THE CTLR FAILED IN HIS DUTY TO SEPARATE TFC CLOSE TO THE RWY. OTHER CREWS HAVE COMPLAINED OF SIMILAR INCIDENTS IN GRAND JUNCTION. IT'S ONLY A MATTER OF TIME (OUR MLG WAS NON TCASII).
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.