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Attributes | |
ACN | 188043 |
Time | |
Date | 199108 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bos |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bos |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | landing : go around landing other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 17000 |
ASRS Report | 188043 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 187651 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Cleared for ILS DME approach to runway 27 with instructions to hold 170 KTS until FAF at same time. Second aircraft was cleared for approach to runway 22L, an intersecting runway. Tower said spacing was good for us to be through runway intersection before air carrier Y landed. On short final I ask the first officer how it looked. He said it looked good so far. Wind at FAF was 295 degree at 34 KTS. GS at 1000 ft was 104 KTS. Tower gave us no more advisories. Shortly after touchdown, the second aircraft Y asked about traffic on the intersecting runway. We saw widebody transport Y on very short final and I applied moderate braking to hold short of intersection. First officer informed tower that we could hold short. Tower told air carrier Y to go around. We stopped short of intersection and air carrier Y flew overhead on go around. I believe tower controller inattn and wind component on approach contributed to this incident. I feel the practice of landing on intersecting runways, with or without hold short instructions, is not safe for jet transport aircraft. Supplemental information from acn 187651. Our flight was cleared to land in bos on runway 27. At approximately 1/2 mi final, captain asked me how the spacing with air carrier Y on final for 22L looked, since we were in intersecting runways. Neither aircraft were given any hold short instructions. Assuming the captain planned to roll to the end of our short runway I said spacing appeared fine for now. After touchdown and while we rolled out, air carrier Y asked tower if we were going to hold short of 22L. Air carrier Y appeared to be on an 1/8 mi final. Captain applied moderate braking and told me to tell tower that we could hold short if he wanted. Before I could respond, tower told air carrier Y to go around. On the go around, the air carrier Y flew directly over us at approximately 150-200 ft. Considering our runway 27 was 7000 ft and Y's runway 22L was just over 10000 ft, any hold short should have been given to air carrier Y. In any event, controller apparently lost his situation awareness and mistook the spacing of both aircraft. He seemed flustered as he handed air carrier Y off to departure. Perhaps ATC should reconsider intersecting runway operations even in IFR WX with runways of limited length.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB ACR HAD TO MAKE GAR. PLT DEV.
Narrative: CLRED FOR ILS DME APCH TO RWY 27 WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO HOLD 170 KTS UNTIL FAF AT SAME TIME. SECOND ACFT WAS CLRED FOR APCH TO RWY 22L, AN INTERSECTING RWY. TWR SAID SPACING WAS GOOD FOR US TO BE THROUGH RWY INTXN BEFORE ACR Y LANDED. ON SHORT FINAL I ASK THE FO HOW IT LOOKED. HE SAID IT LOOKED GOOD SO FAR. WIND AT FAF WAS 295 DEG AT 34 KTS. GS AT 1000 FT WAS 104 KTS. TWR GAVE US NO MORE ADVISORIES. SHORTLY AFTER TOUCHDOWN, THE SECOND ACFT Y ASKED ABOUT TFC ON THE INTERSECTING RWY. WE SAW WDB Y ON VERY SHORT FINAL AND I APPLIED MODERATE BRAKING TO HOLD SHORT OF INTXN. FO INFORMED TWR THAT WE COULD HOLD SHORT. TWR TOLD ACR Y TO GAR. WE STOPPED SHORT OF INTXN AND ACR Y FLEW OVERHEAD ON GAR. I BELIEVE TWR CTLR INATTN AND WIND COMPONENT ON APCH CONTRIBUTED TO THIS INCIDENT. I FEEL THE PRACTICE OF LNDG ON INTERSECTING RWYS, WITH OR WITHOUT HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS, IS NOT SAFE FOR JET TRANSPORT ACFT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 187651. OUR FLT WAS CLRED TO LAND IN BOS ON RWY 27. AT APPROX 1/2 MI FINAL, CAPT ASKED ME HOW THE SPACING WITH ACR Y ON FINAL FOR 22L LOOKED, SINCE WE WERE IN INTERSECTING RWYS. NEITHER ACFT WERE GIVEN ANY HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS. ASSUMING THE CAPT PLANNED TO ROLL TO THE END OF OUR SHORT RWY I SAID SPACING APPEARED FINE FOR NOW. AFTER TOUCHDOWN AND WHILE WE ROLLED OUT, ACR Y ASKED TWR IF WE WERE GOING TO HOLD SHORT OF 22L. ACR Y APPEARED TO BE ON AN 1/8 MI FINAL. CAPT APPLIED MODERATE BRAKING AND TOLD ME TO TELL TWR THAT WE COULD HOLD SHORT IF HE WANTED. BEFORE I COULD RESPOND, TWR TOLD ACR Y TO GAR. ON THE GAR, THE ACR Y FLEW DIRECTLY OVER US AT APPROX 150-200 FT. CONSIDERING OUR RWY 27 WAS 7000 FT AND Y'S RWY 22L WAS JUST OVER 10000 FT, ANY HOLD SHORT SHOULD HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO ACR Y. IN ANY EVENT, CTLR APPARENTLY LOST HIS SITUATION AWARENESS AND MISTOOK THE SPACING OF BOTH ACFT. HE SEEMED FLUSTERED AS HE HANDED ACR Y OFF TO DEP. PERHAPS ATC SHOULD RECONSIDER INTERSECTING RWY OPS EVEN IN IFR WX WITH RWYS OF LIMITED LENGTH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.