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Attributes | |
ACN | 189557 |
Time | |
Date | 199109 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : pdz |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 7000 msl bound upper : 11000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Route In Use | departure sid : sid enroute airway : ont |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 2400 |
ASRS Report | 189557 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
I was captain on air carrier X, leaving ontario, ca. We were assigned the prado 2 departure, and everything was normal on takeoff and climb out until just south of the paradise VOR. We leveled off at 7000 ft as assigned and received a TA on the TCASII system, which indicated traffic at 12 O'clock and 5 mi at 7000 ft. We picked up the traffic visually at about 4 mi and received an RA to descend. We advised ATC that we were going down and had descended 300-400 ft when an small aircraft Y passed overhead. We climbed back to 7000 ft and were instructed by ATC to climb to 11000 ft. After initiating our climb to 11000 ft, we received another TA, indicating traffic at 12 O'clock and 5 mi at about 11000 ft. We picked up this small aircraft Z visually at about 4 mi also and could tell that it was moving from right to left. We leveled at 11000 ft and the traffic passed about 1/2 mi off to our left. At this time we received a call from ATC stating that we had been assigned 10000 ft. I replied that we had been assigned 11000 ft and had read back 11000. ATC gave us a telephone number to call after reaching dfw. We called the number upon arriving and were told that we were correct, that we had been assigned 11000 ft, and that the controller had made a mistake. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: the reporter stated the departure controller had issued traffic to him at about 4 mi. The controller indicated the traffic was VFR no mode C. The reporter stated after TCASII RA and evasive action taken he idented the traffic as small aircraft Y. The reporter stated the second TCASII TA was idented as another small aircraft Z. He had the second small aircraft visual and no evasive action needed to be taken.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X TCASII RA EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN FROM SMA Y. SEE AND AVOID CONCEPT. ACR X TCASII TA HAD LTSS FROM SMA Z. SYS ERROR.
Narrative: I WAS CAPT ON ACR X, LEAVING ONTARIO, CA. WE WERE ASSIGNED THE PRADO 2 DEP, AND EVERYTHING WAS NORMAL ON TKOF AND CLBOUT UNTIL JUST S OF THE PARADISE VOR. WE LEVELED OFF AT 7000 FT AS ASSIGNED AND RECEIVED A TA ON THE TCASII SYS, WHICH INDICATED TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK AND 5 MI AT 7000 FT. WE PICKED UP THE TFC VISUALLY AT ABOUT 4 MI AND RECEIVED AN RA TO DSND. WE ADVISED ATC THAT WE WERE GOING DOWN AND HAD DSNDED 300-400 FT WHEN AN SMA Y PASSED OVERHEAD. WE CLBED BACK TO 7000 FT AND WERE INSTRUCTED BY ATC TO CLB TO 11000 FT. AFTER INITIATING OUR CLB TO 11000 FT, WE RECEIVED ANOTHER TA, INDICATING TFC AT 12 O'CLOCK AND 5 MI AT ABOUT 11000 FT. WE PICKED UP THIS SMA Z VISUALLY AT ABOUT 4 MI ALSO AND COULD TELL THAT IT WAS MOVING FROM R TO L. WE LEVELED AT 11000 FT AND THE TFC PASSED ABOUT 1/2 MI OFF TO OUR L. AT THIS TIME WE RECEIVED A CALL FROM ATC STATING THAT WE HAD BEEN ASSIGNED 10000 FT. I REPLIED THAT WE HAD BEEN ASSIGNED 11000 FT AND HAD READ BACK 11000. ATC GAVE US A TELEPHONE NUMBER TO CALL AFTER REACHING DFW. WE CALLED THE NUMBER UPON ARRIVING AND WERE TOLD THAT WE WERE CORRECT, THAT WE HAD BEEN ASSIGNED 11000 FT, AND THAT THE CTLR HAD MADE A MISTAKE. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: THE RPTR STATED THE DEP CTLR HAD ISSUED TFC TO HIM AT ABOUT 4 MI. THE CTLR INDICATED THE TFC WAS VFR NO MODE C. THE RPTR STATED AFTER TCASII RA AND EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN HE IDENTED THE TFC AS SMA Y. THE RPTR STATED THE SECOND TCASII TA WAS IDENTED AS ANOTHER SMA Z. HE HAD THE SECOND SMA VISUAL AND NO EVASIVE ACTION NEEDED TO BE TAKEN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.