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Attributes | |
ACN | 303827 |
Time | |
Date | 199505 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : acy |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 17000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Commercial Fixed Wing |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct enroute airway : zdc |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | other : unknown |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 2000 |
ASRS Report | 303827 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
Air carrier X was cleared to climb through 17000 ft (my level altitude). Aircraft passed less than 1 NM and 200 ft in front of my flight. After responding to TCASII RA, controller responded that she didn't think that was necessary because he had visual separation. Visual separation above 10000 ft is not safe, speeds are too high.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR X TCASII RA WITH ACFT Y. VISUAL SEPARATION IN USE. EVASIVE ACTION TAKEN.
Narrative: ACR X WAS CLRED TO CLB THROUGH 17000 FT (MY LEVEL ALT). ACFT PASSED LESS THAN 1 NM AND 200 FT IN FRONT OF MY FLT. AFTER RESPONDING TO TCASII RA, CTLR RESPONDED THAT SHE DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS NECESSARY BECAUSE HE HAD VISUAL SEPARATION. VISUAL SEPARATION ABOVE 10000 FT IS NOT SAFE, SPDS ARE TOO HIGH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.