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Flight crew of medium large transport taxied past the runway hold line, tower had large transport go around.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 191411 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199110 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : phx |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 270 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 3000 |
| ASRS Report | 191411 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 4400 |
| ASRS Report | 191037 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : clearance |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other other |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We were holding short of 26L at phx with a release time of :29 and 1 engine running. Tower cleared us into position at :24 and we declined since we still only had the 1 engine operating. We were told to hold short and I acknowledged the hold short. After the start, we had a light on the overhead that commanded my attention. As I was working off the problem, tower told us to hold short. As I looked down from the overhead I realized that the captain had been taxiing very slowly and had his nose up over the hold short line. The captain stopped. Tower asked if we were over the line and I acknowledged that our nose was. As we turned to the right to clear the line, tower sent an large transport around. Large transport flight crew stated that we looked clear. Communication! Communication! It counts for a lot!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF MLG TAXIED PAST THE RWY HOLD LINE, TWR HAD LGT GAR.
Narrative: WE WERE HOLDING SHORT OF 26L AT PHX WITH A RELEASE TIME OF :29 AND 1 ENG RUNNING. TWR CLRED US INTO POS AT :24 AND WE DECLINED SINCE WE STILL ONLY HAD THE 1 ENG OPERATING. WE WERE TOLD TO HOLD SHORT AND I ACKNOWLEDGED THE HOLD SHORT. AFTER THE START, WE HAD A LIGHT ON THE OVERHEAD THAT COMMANDED MY ATTN. AS I WAS WORKING OFF THE PROB, TWR TOLD US TO HOLD SHORT. AS I LOOKED DOWN FROM THE OVERHEAD I REALIZED THAT THE CAPT HAD BEEN TAXIING VERY SLOWLY AND HAD HIS NOSE UP OVER THE HOLD SHORT LINE. THE CAPT STOPPED. TWR ASKED IF WE WERE OVER THE LINE AND I ACKNOWLEDGED THAT OUR NOSE WAS. AS WE TURNED TO THE R TO CLR THE LINE, TWR SENT AN LGT AROUND. LGT FLC STATED THAT WE LOOKED CLR. COM! COM! IT COUNTS FOR A LOT!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.