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Attributes | |
ACN | 191882 |
Time | |
Date | 199110 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sax |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90 |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Transport |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 8500 flight time type : 1100 |
ASRS Report | 191882 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 400 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Cruising direct brezy at 4000 ft, autoplt on, a high wing single engine small aircraft X passed overhead, opposite direction, on our left side. Did not see aircraft until he was so close that evasive action futile. No warning from ATC (frequency 127.6). Approximately 15 seconds later ATC gave traffic ahead on left and right, low. Both were no conflict, several mi ahead. This problem occurs regularly because our flight is planned at low altitude and via a route which nears the northwest boundary of the new york TCA. Our company is unable to get a higher or better rted flight plan on these dca to hpn flts. TCASII onboard the mdt would be very helpful. Better ATC separation would also be appreciated. I adjust my seat (to a less comfortable) position on these particular flts to give me the best 'see and avoid' view. I try to spend all my time scanning for traffic as well.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CLOSE PROC ACR-MDT GA-SMA AT THE NW BOUNDARY OF THE N90 TCA.
Narrative: CRUISING DIRECT BREZY AT 4000 FT, AUTOPLT ON, A HIGH WING SINGLE ENG SMA X PASSED OVERHEAD, OPPOSITE DIRECTION, ON OUR L SIDE. DID NOT SEE ACFT UNTIL HE WAS SO CLOSE THAT EVASIVE ACTION FUTILE. NO WARNING FROM ATC (FREQ 127.6). APPROX 15 SECONDS LATER ATC GAVE TFC AHEAD ON L AND R, LOW. BOTH WERE NO CONFLICT, SEVERAL MI AHEAD. THIS PROBLEM OCCURS REGULARLY BECAUSE OUR FLT IS PLANNED AT LOW ALT AND VIA A RTE WHICH NEARS THE NW BOUNDARY OF THE NEW YORK TCA. OUR COMPANY IS UNABLE TO GET A HIGHER OR BETTER RTED FLT PLAN ON THESE DCA TO HPN FLTS. TCASII ONBOARD THE MDT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL. BETTER ATC SEPARATION WOULD ALSO BE APPRECIATED. I ADJUST MY SEAT (TO A LESS COMFORTABLE) POS ON THESE PARTICULAR FLTS TO GIVE ME THE BEST 'SEE AND AVOID' VIEW. I TRY TO SPEND ALL MY TIME SCANNING FOR TFC AS WELL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.