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Attributes | |
ACN | 192077 |
Time | |
Date | 199110 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sfo |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 192077 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : crossing restriction not met non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight sfo-dtw. We departed the gate at sfo weighing 183900 pounds gross. Our final mgl indicated we could only depart 1R -- too heavy for 1L. The san francisco 5 departure (SID) requires a 30 degree heading after takeoff and a climb to pass a point 6 DME northeast of sfo at or above 3000 ft. Because of our high takeoff gross weight we were unable to meet that restriction. We passed the 6 DME point at 2000 ft. We did make it to 3000 by 8.4 DME. We used reduced EPR for takeoff. Even using full takeoff EPR would not have given us the performance to meet the restriction. I believe that we need to change the climb limit weight for departure on 1L or 1R at sfo to conform to that restriction.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HVY LGT UNABLE TO MAKE 3000 FT XING 6 MI AFTER TKOF PER PUBLISHED DEP.
Narrative: FLT SFO-DTW. WE DEPARTED THE GATE AT SFO WEIGHING 183900 POUNDS GROSS. OUR FINAL MGL INDICATED WE COULD ONLY DEPART 1R -- TOO HVY FOR 1L. THE SAN FRANCISCO 5 DEP (SID) REQUIRES A 30 DEG HDG AFTER TKOF AND A CLB TO PASS A POINT 6 DME NE OF SFO AT OR ABOVE 3000 FT. BECAUSE OF OUR HIGH TKOF GROSS WT WE WERE UNABLE TO MEET THAT RESTRICTION. WE PASSED THE 6 DME POINT AT 2000 FT. WE DID MAKE IT TO 3000 BY 8.4 DME. WE USED REDUCED EPR FOR TKOF. EVEN USING FULL TKOF EPR WOULD NOT HAVE GIVEN US THE PERFORMANCE TO MEET THE RESTRICTION. I BELIEVE THAT WE NEED TO CHANGE THE CLB LIMIT WT FOR DEP ON 1L OR 1R AT SFO TO CONFORM TO THAT RESTRICTION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.