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Attributes | |
ACN | 193737 |
Time | |
Date | 199111 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : huf |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 850 flight time type : 842 |
ASRS Report | 193737 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
An small aircraft Y and an small aircraft X taxiing on the bravo taxiway. Small aircraft X forward of small aircraft Y approaching hold lines on runway 23. Ground control instructed my small aircraft X to hold short of 23 also instructed small aircraft Y to hold at 23. At hold short lines ground instructs aircraft holding at 23 (my small aircraft X) to cross 23. I began to cross runway 23 via bravo. After I began my taxi and was on runway 23 ground instructed, by north number, for the small aircraft Y to cross 23. They thought my north number belonged to the small aircraft Y and vice versa. They wanted the small aircraft Y to hold, but the small aircraft Y used my north number, so he also crossed. From my perspective, I was cleared to cross, but tower got our aircraft north numbers and field position mixed up. He wanted me to cross and the small aircraft Y to hold. But he cleared me without north number and then he used the small aircraft Y's north number so they also crossed.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CONFUSION IN ACFT IDENT PROBLEM CREATES A RWY INCURSION.
Narrative: AN SMA Y AND AN SMA X TAXIING ON THE BRAVO TAXIWAY. SMA X FORWARD OF SMA Y APCHING HOLD LINES ON RWY 23. GND CTL INSTRUCTED MY SMA X TO HOLD SHORT OF 23 ALSO INSTRUCTED SMA Y TO HOLD AT 23. AT HOLD SHORT LINES GND INSTRUCTS ACFT HOLDING AT 23 (MY SMA X) TO CROSS 23. I BEGAN TO CROSS RWY 23 VIA BRAVO. AFTER I BEGAN MY TAXI AND WAS ON RWY 23 GND INSTRUCTED, BY N NUMBER, FOR THE SMA Y TO CROSS 23. THEY THOUGHT MY N NUMBER BELONGED TO THE SMA Y AND VICE VERSA. THEY WANTED THE SMA Y TO HOLD, BUT THE SMA Y USED MY N NUMBER, SO HE ALSO CROSSED. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, I WAS CLRED TO CROSS, BUT TWR GOT OUR ACFT N NUMBERS AND FIELD POS MIXED UP. HE WANTED ME TO CROSS AND THE SMA Y TO HOLD. BUT HE CLRED ME WITHOUT N NUMBER AND THEN HE USED THE SMA Y'S N NUMBER SO THEY ALSO CROSSED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.