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Attributes | |
ACN | 194829 |
Time | |
Date | 199111 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sax |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 17000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 228 flight time total : 14500 flight time type : 1800 |
ASRS Report | 194829 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Flight had been cleared to eliot intersection at 17000. We were proceeding via omega navigation. The meteorological conditions were in and out of clouds and heavy rain with scattered areas of thunderstorms of unknown intensity. Our heading was approximately 275 degrees magnetic. Approximately 3 or 4 mi east of eliot intersection we broke out of the clouds and rain and directly ahead at approximately 5 mi was what looked like (visually) a dark anvil head of a dissipating area thunderstorm. WX radar was on and indicated heavy precipitation. I immediately requested a 35 degree deviation to the left of course for severe WX avoidance. I considered proceeding straight ahead, a risk to the safety of the flight. ATC asked if we could turn right of course which we were unable to do since the main body of the storm was in that direction. I proceeded to turn left toward a heading of 210 degrees and my first officer informed ATC that we needed to deviate immediately for WX avoidance. ATC did not answer us immediately and we called again about our deviation at which time my first officer and I heard ATC call for turn to 180 degrees. We were at 210 degrees at the time and told ATC we could proceed direct eliot momentarily. Again, ATC did not answer immediately but finally told us to proceed to eliot when able. We were on the deviation heading for approximately 45 seconds before proceeding direct to eliot.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HVY LOOKING ANVIL TYPE TSTM CAUSED FLC TO DEVIATE FROM COURSE. UNABLE TO OBTAIN IMMEDIATE CLRNC FROM ZNY CTLR.
Narrative: FLT HAD BEEN CLRED TO ELIOT INTXN AT 17000. WE WERE PROCEEDING VIA OMEGA NAV. THE METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS WERE IN AND OUT OF CLOUDS AND HVY RAIN WITH SCATTERED AREAS OF TSTMS OF UNKNOWN INTENSITY. OUR HDG WAS APPROX 275 DEGS MAGNETIC. APPROX 3 OR 4 MI E OF ELIOT INTXN WE BROKE OUT OF THE CLOUDS AND RAIN AND DIRECTLY AHEAD AT APPROX 5 MI WAS WHAT LOOKED LIKE (VISUALLY) A DARK ANVIL HEAD OF A DISSIPATING AREA TSTM. WX RADAR WAS ON AND INDICATED HVY PRECIPITATION. I IMMEDIATELY REQUESTED A 35 DEG DEV TO THE L OF COURSE FOR SEVERE WX AVOIDANCE. I CONSIDERED PROCEEDING STRAIGHT AHEAD, A RISK TO THE SAFETY OF THE FLT. ATC ASKED IF WE COULD TURN R OF COURSE WHICH WE WERE UNABLE TO DO SINCE THE MAIN BODY OF THE STORM WAS IN THAT DIRECTION. I PROCEEDED TO TURN L TOWARD A HDG OF 210 DEGS AND MY FO INFORMED ATC THAT WE NEEDED TO DEVIATE IMMEDIATELY FOR WX AVOIDANCE. ATC DID NOT ANSWER US IMMEDIATELY AND WE CALLED AGAIN ABOUT OUR DEV AT WHICH TIME MY FO AND I HEARD ATC CALL FOR TURN TO 180 DEGS. WE WERE AT 210 DEGS AT THE TIME AND TOLD ATC WE COULD PROCEED DIRECT ELIOT MOMENTARILY. AGAIN, ATC DID NOT ANSWER IMMEDIATELY BUT FINALLY TOLD US TO PROCEED TO ELIOT WHEN ABLE. WE WERE ON THE DEV HDG FOR APPROX 45 SECONDS BEFORE PROCEEDING DIRECT TO ELIOT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.