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Attributes | |
ACN | 195003 |
Time | |
Date | 199111 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 195003 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : required legal separation other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error |
Narrative:
Ord approach control was running parallel ILS approachs to runways 27L, 27R. Our flight was downwind, heading 090 degrees for vectors to runway 27L. When approximately 6 mi from ord we were given a turn to 360 degrees. Shortly thereafter another aircraft with a similar sounding flight number was issued a turn to 290 degrees to intercept the 27L ILS. At first thought, said aircraft was the one we were following, but it quickly became obvious that the other aircraft was actually behind us and was now mistakenly being placed ahead of us. The crew of the other aircraft knew our relative position and attempted to resolve the conflict with ATC. When ATC saw what they had done they issued us vectors and speed control which kept us sufficiently separated to continue the approachs albeit in reverse order. In reviewing the events I believe that there were 2 problems resulting from the ATC mishandling. There may have been a loss of legal separation. We were unable to determine that with certainty due to IMC conditions prevailing at the time. We went through the 27L ILS course and were infringing upon the traffic for runway 27R or parallel approachs. However at that point, there is normally a 1000 ft vertical separation to protect against any overshoots.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: APCH CTLR VECTORING 2 COMPANY ACFT FOR ILS APCH TURNED SECOND ACFT ON ILS FIRST. SIMILAR SOUNDING A/N.
Narrative: ORD APCH CTL WAS RUNNING PARALLEL ILS APCHS TO RWYS 27L, 27R. OUR FLT WAS DOWNWIND, HDG 090 DEGS FOR VECTORS TO RWY 27L. WHEN APPROX 6 MI FROM ORD WE WERE GIVEN A TURN TO 360 DEGS. SHORTLY THEREAFTER ANOTHER ACFT WITH A SIMILAR SOUNDING FLT NUMBER WAS ISSUED A TURN TO 290 DEGS TO INTERCEPT THE 27L ILS. AT FIRST THOUGHT, SAID ACFT WAS THE ONE WE WERE FOLLOWING, BUT IT QUICKLY BECAME OBVIOUS THAT THE OTHER ACFT WAS ACTUALLY BEHIND US AND WAS NOW MISTAKENLY BEING PLACED AHEAD OF US. THE CREW OF THE OTHER ACFT KNEW OUR RELATIVE POS AND ATTEMPTED TO RESOLVE THE CONFLICT WITH ATC. WHEN ATC SAW WHAT THEY HAD DONE THEY ISSUED US VECTORS AND SPD CTL WHICH KEPT US SUFFICIENTLY SEPARATED TO CONTINUE THE APCHS ALBEIT IN REVERSE ORDER. IN REVIEWING THE EVENTS I BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE 2 PROBLEMS RESULTING FROM THE ATC MISHANDLING. THERE MAY HAVE BEEN A LOSS OF LEGAL SEPARATION. WE WERE UNABLE TO DETERMINE THAT WITH CERTAINTY DUE TO IMC CONDITIONS PREVAILING AT THE TIME. WE WENT THROUGH THE 27L ILS COURSE AND WERE INFRINGING UPON THE TFC FOR RWY 27R OR PARALLEL APCHS. HOWEVER AT THAT POINT, THERE IS NORMALLY A 1000 FT VERT SEPARATION TO PROTECT AGAINST ANY OVERSHOOTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.