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Attributes | |
ACN | 195084 |
Time | |
Date | 199111 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : scy |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 10000 msl bound upper : 10000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Dusk |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other cruise other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 9300 flight time type : 3400 |
ASRS Report | 195084 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
About 10 NM from the scurry VOR we saw some buildups ahead of us. The first officer made very minor heading changes (5 degree left and right). Center was busy and we could not get a word in to tell him. After awhile center came on and asked us to fly heading 270 degree. I told him we would in about 4 mi, 'cause of buildups. He said: 'did you get permission for those deviations?' I told him we were going direct scy as cleared. He apparently had noticed our 5 degree heading changes and was not happy about it. What can we do when ATC is too busy to talk to? Dfw area is too congested! You can't get a word in! It's unsafe.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF COMMUTER MADE SMALL HDG DEVS TO AVOID WX AT 10000 APCHING DFW. CENTER CTLR QUERIED THE FLC.
Narrative: ABOUT 10 NM FROM THE SCURRY VOR WE SAW SOME BUILDUPS AHEAD OF US. THE FO MADE VERY MINOR HDG CHANGES (5 DEG L AND R). CENTER WAS BUSY AND WE COULD NOT GET A WORD IN TO TELL HIM. AFTER AWHILE CENTER CAME ON AND ASKED US TO FLY HDG 270 DEG. I TOLD HIM WE WOULD IN ABOUT 4 MI, 'CAUSE OF BUILDUPS. HE SAID: 'DID YOU GET PERMISSION FOR THOSE DEVS?' I TOLD HIM WE WERE GOING DIRECT SCY AS CLRED. HE APPARENTLY HAD NOTICED OUR 5 DEG HDG CHANGES AND WAS NOT HAPPY ABOUT IT. WHAT CAN WE DO WHEN ATC IS TOO BUSY TO TALK TO? DFW AREA IS TOO CONGESTED! YOU CAN'T GET A WORD IN! IT'S UNSAFE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.