Medium large transport on STAR to lax given traffic narrowly avoided a VFR small aircraft.

Attributes
ACN	195435
Time
Date	199111
Day	Fri
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : lax
State Reference	CA
Altitude	msl bound lower : 10500 msl bound upper : 11000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	common carrier : air carrier
Make Model Name	Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng
Navigation In Use	Other Other
Flight Phase	descent other
Route In Use	arrival other arrival star : star enroute airway : zla
Flight Plan	IFR
Aircraft 2
Operator	other
Make Model Name	Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 2 Eng, Retractable Gear
Flight Phase	cruise other
Flight Plan	VFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 149 flight time total : 5600 flight time type : 427
ASRS Report	195435
Person 2
Affiliation	company : air carrier
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp
Events
Anomaly	conflict : airborne less severe other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other controllera other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	flight crew : took evasive action
Consequence	Other
Miss Distance	horizontal : 500 vertical : 600
Supplementary
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

On the profile, just past symon intersection, ZLA advised traffic alert 2 O'clock, 1 mi. An aircraft passed right to left under us, perpendicular to our flight path. We overrode the autoplt and cws pitch mode and decreased our rate of descent from 2000 FPM to about 500 FPM. We informed ATC it was a close one. We should have seen the plane sooner but ATC had kept us high and fast (as usual!) before clearing us onto the 24/25 profile. We both were too engrossed in making the restrictions at symon and sadde intxns. Since reagan fired the patco controllers I realize we need to make up for the lack of controllers by having thousands and thousands of profiles, stars, and sids, but do we have to have the published procedure modified by ATC every 30 seconds? It is very obvious that many of these new controllers (unlike the old patco folks) have never seen sids, stars, profiles and approach procedures from inside a jet cockpit, let alone flown a jet. Why aren't they required to jumpseat a min of 4 legs annually into lax sfo/ord, etc? I visit their facilities once each yr. I really wish they would visit mine.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: MLG ON STAR TO LAX GIVEN TFC NARROWLY AVOIDED A VFR SMA.

Narrative: ON THE PROFILE, JUST PAST SYMON INTXN, ZLA ADVISED TFC ALERT 2 O'CLOCK, 1 MI. AN ACFT PASSED R TO L UNDER US, PERPENDICULAR TO OUR FLT PATH. WE OVERRODE THE AUTOPLT AND CWS PITCH MODE AND DECREASED OUR RATE OF DSCNT FROM 2000 FPM TO ABOUT 500 FPM. WE INFORMED ATC IT WAS A CLOSE ONE. WE SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE PLANE SOONER BUT ATC HAD KEPT US HIGH AND FAST (AS USUAL!) BEFORE CLRING US ONTO THE 24/25 PROFILE. WE BOTH WERE TOO ENGROSSED IN MAKING THE RESTRICTIONS AT SYMON AND SADDE INTXNS. SINCE REAGAN FIRED THE PATCO CTLRS I REALIZE WE NEED TO MAKE UP FOR THE LACK OF CTLRS BY HAVING THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PROFILES, STARS, AND SIDS, BUT DO WE HAVE TO HAVE THE PUBLISHED PROC MODIFIED BY ATC EVERY 30 SECONDS? IT IS VERY OBVIOUS THAT MANY OF THESE NEW CTLRS (UNLIKE THE OLD PATCO FOLKS) HAVE NEVER SEEN SIDS, STARS, PROFILES AND APCH PROCS FROM INSIDE A JET COCKPIT, LET ALONE FLOWN A JET. WHY AREN'T THEY REQUIRED TO JUMPSEAT A MIN OF 4 LEGS ANNUALLY INTO LAX SFO/ORD, ETC? I VISIT THEIR FACILITIES ONCE EACH YR. I REALLY WISH THEY WOULD VISIT MINE.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.