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Attributes | |
ACN | 198394 |
Time | |
Date | 199201 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : atl |
State Reference | GA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 4200 msl bound upper : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : atl |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other landing other |
Route In Use | approach : visual arrival other enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 380 |
ASRS Report | 198394 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 5000 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After about 4 turns of holding over rome VOR vectors for approach (visual) to 26R at atl. Vectored north of airport heading east cleared to descend from (I think) 8000 ft to 4500 ft and turn about 150 degrees right to a visual final. In turn was asked to slow from 250 KTS to 210 KTS. Field was clearly in sight earlier but was momentarily out of view due to broken cloud cover during turn. Our position was high so I used full speed brake to go/down slow/down. During localizer intercept we received an aural 'traffic traffic' warning from TCASII. During this distraction I allowed aircraft to descend to 4200 ft and then corrected back to 4500 ft. I will say also that our company had just revised approach and departure SOP which included a radical change in airspeed bug placement/usage and new 'FLIP cards' for flap/approach speeds. The aircraft had old data removed and new type cards installed. We were supposed to have been given manual revisions and bulletins to explain the new procedure. Instead we received only a preliminary bulletin which we read on the flight to atl. No one was sure what the procedures were, causing confusion and distraction during this critical phase of flight. Suggest TCASII off while in TCA, or air traffic area, or below 7000. Suggest no changes in SOP until all pilots fully informed in a timely manner with proper printed materials and time to review them. Set altimeter warning tolerance to 150.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LGT FLC ON TURN IN FOR VISUAL TO ATL, 4500 FT, DSNDED TO 4200 FT.
Narrative: AFTER ABOUT 4 TURNS OF HOLDING OVER ROME VOR VECTORS FOR APCH (VISUAL) TO 26R AT ATL. VECTORED N OF ARPT HDG E CLRED TO DSND FROM (I THINK) 8000 FT TO 4500 FT AND TURN ABOUT 150 DEGS R TO A VISUAL FINAL. IN TURN WAS ASKED TO SLOW FROM 250 KTS TO 210 KTS. FIELD WAS CLRLY IN SIGHT EARLIER BUT WAS MOMENTARILY OUT OF VIEW DUE TO BROKEN CLOUD COVER DURING TURN. OUR POS WAS HIGH SO I USED FULL SPD BRAKE TO GO/DOWN SLOW/DOWN. DURING LOC INTERCEPT WE RECEIVED AN AURAL 'TFC TFC' WARNING FROM TCASII. DURING THIS DISTR I ALLOWED ACFT TO DSND TO 4200 FT AND THEN CORRECTED BACK TO 4500 FT. I WILL SAY ALSO THAT OUR COMPANY HAD JUST REVISED APCH AND DEP SOP WHICH INCLUDED A RADICAL CHANGE IN AIRSPD BUG PLACEMENT/USAGE AND NEW 'FLIP CARDS' FOR FLAP/APCH SPDS. THE ACFT HAD OLD DATA REMOVED AND NEW TYPE CARDS INSTALLED. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN GIVEN MANUAL REVISIONS AND BULLETINS TO EXPLAIN THE NEW PROC. INSTEAD WE RECEIVED ONLY A PRELIMINARY BULLETIN WHICH WE READ ON THE FLT TO ATL. NO ONE WAS SURE WHAT THE PROCS WERE, CAUSING CONFUSION AND DISTR DURING THIS CRITICAL PHASE OF FLT. SUGGEST TCASII OFF WHILE IN TCA, OR ATA, OR BELOW 7000. SUGGEST NO CHANGES IN SOP UNTIL ALL PLTS FULLY INFORMED IN A TIMELY MANNER WITH PROPER PRINTED MATERIALS AND TIME TO REVIEW THEM. SET ALTIMETER WARNING TOLERANCE TO 150.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.