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Attributes | |
ACN | 198865 |
Time | |
Date | 199201 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : phx |
State Reference | AZ |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : phx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach descent other |
Route In Use | arrival other arrival star : star |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 600 |
ASRS Report | 198865 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Airport |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
On jan/thu/92 there was a major change to the airway structure around phoenix. Because my company places commercial chart revisions in our crew mail boxes and since I had a short turnaround at my base, I didn't check my mail box, I didn't have current charts when operating into and out of phoenix. We got ATC to give us a contextual readout of the appropriate arrival and departure but this placed an undue burden on ATC and could have led to a misunderstanding of the readout. I have submitted a suggestion that the company forward revisions to all stations where crew originate when revisions become effective.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LATE ARR OF CHART REVISIONS CAUSED FLC TO DEPART WITHOUT PERTINENT CHARTS.
Narrative: ON JAN/THU/92 THERE WAS A MAJOR CHANGE TO THE AIRWAY STRUCTURE AROUND PHOENIX. BECAUSE MY COMPANY PLACES COMMERCIAL CHART REVISIONS IN OUR CREW MAIL BOXES AND SINCE I HAD A SHORT TURNAROUND AT MY BASE, I DIDN'T CHK MY MAIL BOX, I DIDN'T HAVE CURRENT CHARTS WHEN OPERATING INTO AND OUT OF PHOENIX. WE GOT ATC TO GIVE US A CONTEXTUAL READOUT OF THE APPROPRIATE ARR AND DEP BUT THIS PLACED AN UNDUE BURDEN ON ATC AND COULD HAVE LED TO A MISUNDERSTANDING OF THE READOUT. I HAVE SUBMITTED A SUGGESTION THAT THE COMPANY FORWARD REVISIONS TO ALL STATIONS WHERE CREW ORIGINATE WHEN REVISIONS BECOME EFFECTIVE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.