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Attributes | |
ACN | 199147 |
Time | |
Date | 199201 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ase |
State Reference | CO |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 14500 msl bound upper : 15000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other departure sid : sid |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 3200 |
ASRS Report | 199147 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 10 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Was asked by aspen tower when holding short of runway 33 for takeoff if we had the small transport that had just lifted off 'in sight.' my sic replied yes and we were cleared for takeoff and to keep to the left of the small transport. I repeated the instructions to my sic to confirm what I thought I had heard from the tower. We both inferred he was departing the air traffic area to the northeast or east. We complied with the lindz SID which calls for a 270 degree heading after reaching 8700 ft MSL to intercept and track outbound on the ipkn lda back course and were switched to ZDV. During the climb out we were both busy flying the SID procedure and completing the after takeoff checklist transitioning to en route climb. I had just rolled out on the lda course when center's first radio contact asked if we had the small transport 12 O'clock climbing out of 15300 MSL. We both saw it to our surprise and I initiated a level off at 15000 MSL until we passed well clear underneath the small transport (we were cleared to 16000 MSL) and resumed the climb to 16000. We were cleared on course without further incident. Our altitude was about 14500 ft MSL when center's call came. Had the tower informed us of the small transport's route of flight and altitude and we had not assumed his path after leaving the air traffic area we would have been more alert to his whereabouts and not considered ourselves clear of him. His 12 O'clock high position to us at the time of recontact made it difficult to see him. Thank you ZDV!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC OF LTT ATX INSTRUCTED BY TWR TO KEEP SMT IN SIGHT ON DEP AND CLB, LOST SIGHT OF SMT AND WERE GIVEN TA BY CENTER. NMAC.
Narrative: WAS ASKED BY ASPEN TWR WHEN HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 33 FOR TKOF IF WE HAD THE SMT THAT HAD JUST LIFTED OFF 'IN SIGHT.' MY SIC REPLIED YES AND WE WERE CLRED FOR TKOF AND TO KEEP TO THE L OF THE SMT. I REPEATED THE INSTRUCTIONS TO MY SIC TO CONFIRM WHAT I THOUGHT I HAD HEARD FROM THE TWR. WE BOTH INFERRED HE WAS DEPARTING THE ATA TO THE NE OR E. WE COMPLIED WITH THE LINDZ SID WHICH CALLS FOR A 270 DEG HDG AFTER REACHING 8700 FT MSL TO INTERCEPT AND TRACK OUTBOUND ON THE IPKN LDA BACK COURSE AND WERE SWITCHED TO ZDV. DURING THE CLBOUT WE WERE BOTH BUSY FLYING THE SID PROC AND COMPLETING THE AFTER TKOF CHKLIST TRANSITIONING TO ENRTE CLB. I HAD JUST ROLLED OUT ON THE LDA COURSE WHEN CENTER'S FIRST RADIO CONTACT ASKED IF WE HAD THE SMT 12 O'CLOCK CLBING OUT OF 15300 MSL. WE BOTH SAW IT TO OUR SURPRISE AND I INITIATED A LEVEL OFF AT 15000 MSL UNTIL WE PASSED WELL CLR UNDERNEATH THE SMT (WE WERE CLRED TO 16000 MSL) AND RESUMED THE CLB TO 16000. WE WERE CLRED ON COURSE WITHOUT FURTHER INCIDENT. OUR ALT WAS ABOUT 14500 FT MSL WHEN CENTER'S CALL CAME. HAD THE TWR INFORMED US OF THE SMT'S RTE OF FLT AND ALT AND WE HAD NOT ASSUMED HIS PATH AFTER LEAVING THE ATA WE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE ALERT TO HIS WHEREABOUTS AND NOT CONSIDERED OURSELVES CLR OF HIM. HIS 12 O'CLOCK HIGH POS TO US AT THE TIME OF RECONTACT MADE IT DIFFICULT TO SEE HIM. THANK YOU ZDV!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.