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Attributes | |
ACN | 199639 |
Time | |
Date | 199201 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dfw |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3250 msl bound upper : 4000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : dfw tower : dfw |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | descent other landing : go around |
Route In Use | approach : visual enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 1700 |
ASRS Report | 199639 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : ground critical conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 750 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Narrative:
On final approach to 35R into dfw airport we were cleared to land on runway 25R, when at approximately 700 ft AGL dfw tower cleared 2 heavy jets to cross 35R, at 200 ft AGL neither aircraft was more than halfway across the runway so we decided to execute a missed approach. Our instructions were to climb on a 360 degree heading up to 3000 ft, we then were given a turn to the east and to maintain 6000 ft. After reaching 6000 ft and being radar vectored for stadium visual approach to dfw they told us to descend to 4000 ft and pick up a southerly heading. Approach control then cleared us down to 3000 ft with a turn southwest. They then cleared us for the stadium visual approach to runway 31R at dfw. Shortly after being cleared for the stadium visual approach, approach control issued us traffic at 11-12 O'clock and 4000 ft. Continuing on the approach looking for the traffic we spotted the aircraft passing over the top of us. Our altitude at the time was 3250 ft descending on the visual approach. Given both the aircraft altitudes there may not have been a true conflict, however it appeared alarming given the circumstances that had taken place. The female controller at the time that issued us the landing clearance as well as the approach controller seemed very loaded down and confused with the given traffic situation/crossing traffic on 35/and the whole go around process and how we could be worked into the plan once more during this busy time of day.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR MLG CLOSE PROX WITH UNKNOWN ACFT WHILE ON A VISUAL APCH TO DFW. IT WAS THE SECOND APCH BECAUSE THE FLC HAD MADE A GAR FROM SHORT FINAL ON THE FIRST APCH BECAUSE OF 2 JET ACFT XING THE LNDG RWY.
Narrative: ON FINAL APCH TO 35R INTO DFW ARPT WE WERE CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 25R, WHEN AT APPROX 700 FT AGL DFW TWR CLRED 2 HVY JETS TO CROSS 35R, AT 200 FT AGL NEITHER ACFT WAS MORE THAN HALFWAY ACROSS THE RWY SO WE DECIDED TO EXECUTE A MISSED APCH. OUR INSTRUCTIONS WERE TO CLB ON A 360 DEG HDG UP TO 3000 FT, WE THEN WERE GIVEN A TURN TO THE E AND TO MAINTAIN 6000 FT. AFTER REACHING 6000 FT AND BEING RADAR VECTORED FOR STADIUM VISUAL APCH TO DFW THEY TOLD US TO DSND TO 4000 FT AND PICK UP A SOUTHERLY HDG. APCH CTL THEN CLRED US DOWN TO 3000 FT WITH A TURN SW. THEY THEN CLRED US FOR THE STADIUM VISUAL APCH TO RWY 31R AT DFW. SHORTLY AFTER BEING CLRED FOR THE STADIUM VISUAL APCH, APCH CTL ISSUED US TFC AT 11-12 O'CLOCK AND 4000 FT. CONTINUING ON THE APCH LOOKING FOR THE TFC WE SPOTTED THE ACFT PASSING OVER THE TOP OF US. OUR ALT AT THE TIME WAS 3250 FT DSNDING ON THE VISUAL APCH. GIVEN BOTH THE ACFT ALTS THERE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN A TRUE CONFLICT, HOWEVER IT APPEARED ALARMING GIVEN THE CIRCUMSTANCES THAT HAD TAKEN PLACE. THE FEMALE CTLR AT THE TIME THAT ISSUED US THE LNDG CLRNC AS WELL AS THE APCH CTLR SEEMED VERY LOADED DOWN AND CONFUSED WITH THE GIVEN TFC SITUATION/XING TFC ON 35/AND THE WHOLE GAR PROCESS AND HOW WE COULD BE WORKED INTO THE PLAN ONCE MORE DURING THIS BUSY TIME OF DAY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.