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Attributes | |
ACN | 200322 |
Time | |
Date | 199201 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lax |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 18000 msl bound upper : 18000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : lax |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent other |
Route In Use | arrival : profile descent enroute airway : zla |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 85 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 3100 |
ASRS Report | 299322 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
On approximately 10 civet approachs in last 5 months, at least (5) or 50 percent kept us high, fast or both between civet and arnes as requested by center. On switch to approach control, vectors off and extreme slowing followed. This problem adds considerable workload to an already busy 2 man crew. Most especially if the crew is new. I would guess many other crews would feel this pinch if queried. In short, a normal profile should be the rule except in rare instances.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WDB RPTR COMPLAINS ABOUT BEING KEPT HIGH AND FAST WHILE ON A PROFILE DSCNT.
Narrative: ON APPROX 10 CIVET APCHS IN LAST 5 MONTHS, AT LEAST (5) OR 50 PERCENT KEPT US HIGH, FAST OR BOTH BTWN CIVET AND ARNES AS REQUESTED BY CTR. ON SWITCH TO APCH CTL, VECTORS OFF AND EXTREME SLOWING FOLLOWED. THIS PROBLEM ADDS CONSIDERABLE WORKLOAD TO AN ALREADY BUSY 2 MAN CREW. MOST ESPECIALLY IF THE CREW IS NEW. I WOULD GUESS MANY OTHER CREWS WOULD FEEL THIS PINCH IF QUERIED. IN SHORT, A NORMAL PROFILE SHOULD BE THE RULE EXCEPT IN RARE INSTANCES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.