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Attributes | |
ACN | 200527 |
Time | |
Date | 199201 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ads |
State Reference | TX |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : direct |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : first officer observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 200527 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air taxi |
Function | flight crew : captain instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable none taken : insufficient time |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 10 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After shooting the last approach at gvt we were flying VFR back to ads at 2500 MSL going toward buj VOR about 30 mi out of ads. I began copying ATIS for ads. Once through I began briefing my student on ads WX. We saw and missed an small aircraft by no more than 10 ft under us. It happened so fast that no reaction was possible. As the instructor I should have insisted that we requested radar service en route to ads. I should have also waited until we were in radar contact receiving advisories from regional approach before I stuck the card in the other pilot's face to brief him on ads WX. Furthermore I believe I was distracted further by personal problems do to the fact I had recently had a death in my family.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC BTWN SAME DIRECTION TFC.
Narrative: AFTER SHOOTING THE LAST APCH AT GVT WE WERE FLYING VFR BACK TO ADS AT 2500 MSL GOING TOWARD BUJ VOR ABOUT 30 MI OUT OF ADS. I BEGAN COPYING ATIS FOR ADS. ONCE THROUGH I BEGAN BRIEFING MY STUDENT ON ADS WX. WE SAW AND MISSED AN SMA BY NO MORE THAN 10 FT UNDER US. IT HAPPENED SO FAST THAT NO REACTION WAS POSSIBLE. AS THE INSTRUCTOR I SHOULD HAVE INSISTED THAT WE REQUESTED RADAR SVC ENRTE TO ADS. I SHOULD HAVE ALSO WAITED UNTIL WE WERE IN RADAR CONTACT RECEIVING ADVISORIES FROM REGIONAL APCH BEFORE I STUCK THE CARD IN THE OTHER PLT'S FACE TO BRIEF HIM ON ADS WX. FURTHERMORE I BELIEVE I WAS DISTRACTED FURTHER BY PERSONAL PROBLEMS DO TO THE FACT I HAD RECENTLY HAD A DEATH IN MY FAMILY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.