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Attributes | |
ACN | 201979 |
Time | |
Date | 199202 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : bdl |
State Reference | CT |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 11250 msl bound upper : 11500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zbw tower : jfk |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3750 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 201979 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 750 |
ASRS Report | 201987 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 250 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
The first officer was flying the leg. We were cleared to 17000. We contacted boston center and he advised us to level at 10000 and called VFR traffic heading eastbound at 1:30 position 11500 ft. We called that traffic in sight and were cleared to 'reference that traffic climb to 17000.' I watched the traffic and notified the captain that it was 'constant bearing, decreasing range.' he acknowledged that and told the first officer to increase the rate of climb. The first officer increased the rate of climb. About 10 seconds later the traffic appeared much closer than it did when we had first sighted it. We were at 10900 ft and the captain instructed the first officer to push it over. The first officer performed a mild push over. Climb rate decreased from approximately 2000-1000 FPM. The aircraft continued to climb and the captain shouted 'level off' and pushed forward on the control column. We leveled at 11250 just as the commuter plane passed directly overhead. What caused the problem. We saw the aircraft and assumed that it was sufficiently far away due to its relative size in the windscreen. It was actually much closer than we thought because it was a twin engine commuter plane. The captain did not take adequate action to communication to the first officer his desire for him to level the aircraft at 11000 ft. This was way too close. It definitely would have been a mid air collision. We must have looked huge to that commuter.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLC CLBS INTO AN NMAC WITH KNOWN VFR TFC.
Narrative: THE FO WAS FLYING THE LEG. WE WERE CLRED TO 17000. WE CONTACTED BOSTON CTR AND HE ADVISED US TO LEVEL AT 10000 AND CALLED VFR TFC HDG EBOUND AT 1:30 POS 11500 FT. WE CALLED THAT TFC IN SIGHT AND WERE CLRED TO 'REF THAT TFC CLB TO 17000.' I WATCHED THE TFC AND NOTIFIED THE CAPT THAT IT WAS 'CONSTANT BEARING, DECREASING RANGE.' HE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT AND TOLD THE FO TO INCREASE THE RATE OF CLB. THE FO INCREASED THE RATE OF CLB. ABOUT 10 SECONDS LATER THE TFC APPEARED MUCH CLOSER THAN IT DID WHEN WE HAD FIRST SIGHTED IT. WE WERE AT 10900 FT AND THE CAPT INSTRUCTED THE FO TO PUSH IT OVER. THE FO PERFORMED A MILD PUSH OVER. CLB RATE DECREASED FROM APPROX 2000-1000 FPM. THE ACFT CONTINUED TO CLB AND THE CAPT SHOUTED 'LEVEL OFF' AND PUSHED FORWARD ON THE CTL COLUMN. WE LEVELED AT 11250 JUST AS THE COMMUTER PLANE PASSED DIRECTLY OVERHEAD. WHAT CAUSED THE PROBLEM. WE SAW THE ACFT AND ASSUMED THAT IT WAS SUFFICIENTLY FAR AWAY DUE TO ITS RELATIVE SIZE IN THE WINDSCREEN. IT WAS ACTUALLY MUCH CLOSER THAN WE THOUGHT BECAUSE IT WAS A TWIN ENG COMMUTER PLANE. THE CAPT DID NOT TAKE ADEQUATE ACTION TO COM TO THE FO HIS DESIRE FOR HIM TO LEVEL THE ACFT AT 11000 FT. THIS WAS WAY TOO CLOSE. IT DEFINITELY WOULD HAVE BEEN A MID AIR COLLISION. WE MUST HAVE LOOKED HUGE TO THAT COMMUTER.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.