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Attributes | |
ACN | 201981 |
Time | |
Date | 199202 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 30 |
ASRS Report | 201981 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Situations | |
Airport | other physical facility |
Narrative:
While taxiing out of jfk to runway 31R was issued taxi instructions 'inner to foxtrot then yankee-alpha to 31R. I am familiar with jfk but ya was new to me. With our hand on tiller and other on throttles, it was very difficult to check airport diagram. We missed taxiway ya and continued to runway 22L/4R. Tower queried if we were at the end on the runway and first officer replied 'affirmative.' tower then cleared us for takeoff. I intervened at this point and stated that we were not at the end of the runway. Tower located us and advised a 180 degree turn with semi-progressive instructions to correct runway. It turns out that ya is fairly new and was still unlit. Very dark! Problems: do we really need to be using unlit taxiways? I should have queried ground the moment I was unsure of position. First officer should have followed taxi progress. Do we really want 2 inexperienced crew in same airplane.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: TAXIING ACFT MISSED A TURN AND TAXIED TO RWY 22L VERSUS 31R.
Narrative: WHILE TAXIING OUT OF JFK TO RWY 31R WAS ISSUED TAXI INSTRUCTIONS 'INNER TO FOXTROT THEN YANKEE-ALPHA TO 31R. I AM FAMILIAR WITH JFK BUT YA WAS NEW TO ME. WITH OUR HAND ON TILLER AND OTHER ON THROTTLES, IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT TO CHK ARPT DIAGRAM. WE MISSED TAXIWAY YA AND CONTINUED TO RWY 22L/4R. TWR QUERIED IF WE WERE AT THE END ON THE RWY AND FO REPLIED 'AFFIRMATIVE.' TWR THEN CLRED US FOR TKOF. I INTERVENED AT THIS POINT AND STATED THAT WE WERE NOT AT THE END OF THE RWY. TWR LOCATED US AND ADVISED A 180 DEG TURN WITH SEMI-PROGRESSIVE INSTRUCTIONS TO CORRECT RWY. IT TURNS OUT THAT YA IS FAIRLY NEW AND WAS STILL UNLIT. VERY DARK! PROBLEMS: DO WE REALLY NEED TO BE USING UNLIT TAXIWAYS? I SHOULD HAVE QUERIED GND THE MOMENT I WAS UNSURE OF POS. FO SHOULD HAVE FOLLOWED TAXI PROGRESS. DO WE REALLY WANT 2 INEXPERIENCED CREW IN SAME AIRPLANE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.