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Attributes | |
ACN | 202057 |
Time | |
Date | 199202 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : pdx |
State Reference | OR |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : pdx |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other Other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 1500 |
ASRS Report | 202057 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Air Traffic Incident | other other |
Narrative:
We were being vectored for approach, ILS 10R at pdx the WX was mostly clear with some local ground fog forming as the sun came up. The RVR was 6000 plus for 10R. On base, pdx approach informed us that the RVR was now 1200 and we needed 1800 RVR. I then asked approach if the WX was better on the other runway. After a short pause, approach asked if we could accept an approach for the localizer back course 10L. I checked with my copilot, then told approach that we could and was cleared for the localizer back course 10L and to contact pdx tower at the final fix. During the next few mins we reconfigured the aircraft for the approach, reset the radios and reviewed the approach. At the final approach fix we called pdx tower and were cleared to land. At all times we could see the river and airport area. Shortly after passing poorta (final fix) we could see some runway lights and 1.5 to 2 mi from the airport we saw the runway and landed. At no time during this approach did we fly in instrument meteorological conditions until the final descent onto the runway which was restr somewhat by fog. During this approach and landing I do not remember asking for or receiving the WX for runway 10L. I accepted this approach based on the fact it was offered to me after I asked about the WX being better than the other runway and the fact that we could see the pdx airport area and the fog was local in nature. This allowed us to see the runway lights and runway well before the 1 mi required for the localizer back course 10L approach. This situation most likely came about because of fast changing WX and my desire to get on the ground while the WX was good. Also I got very busy reconfiguring the aircraft and radios for a different runway and I was a little tired after flying most of the night.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AIR FREIGHTER REQUESTS ANOTHER RWY WHEN RVR GOES BELOW MINS ON ORIGINAL ASSIGNED RWY. MAKES LOC BACK COURSE APCH.
Narrative: WE WERE BEING VECTORED FOR APCH, ILS 10R AT PDX THE WX WAS MOSTLY CLR WITH SOME LCL GND FOG FORMING AS THE SUN CAME UP. THE RVR WAS 6000 PLUS FOR 10R. ON BASE, PDX APCH INFORMED US THAT THE RVR WAS NOW 1200 AND WE NEEDED 1800 RVR. I THEN ASKED APCH IF THE WX WAS BETTER ON THE OTHER RWY. AFTER A SHORT PAUSE, APCH ASKED IF WE COULD ACCEPT AN APCH FOR THE LOC BACK COURSE 10L. I CHKED WITH MY COPLT, THEN TOLD APCH THAT WE COULD AND WAS CLRED FOR THE LOC BACK COURSE 10L AND TO CONTACT PDX TWR AT THE FINAL FIX. DURING THE NEXT FEW MINS WE RECONFIGURED THE ACFT FOR THE APCH, RESET THE RADIOS AND REVIEWED THE APCH. AT THE FINAL APCH FIX WE CALLED PDX TWR AND WERE CLRED TO LAND. AT ALL TIMES WE COULD SEE THE RIVER AND ARPT AREA. SHORTLY AFTER PASSING POORTA (FINAL FIX) WE COULD SEE SOME RWY LIGHTS AND 1.5 TO 2 MI FROM THE ARPT WE SAW THE RWY AND LANDED. AT NO TIME DURING THIS APCH DID WE FLY IN INST METEOROLOGICAL CONDITIONS UNTIL THE FINAL DSCNT ONTO THE RWY WHICH WAS RESTR SOMEWHAT BY FOG. DURING THIS APCH AND LNDG I DO NOT REMEMBER ASKING FOR OR RECEIVING THE WX FOR RWY 10L. I ACCEPTED THIS APCH BASED ON THE FACT IT WAS OFFERED TO ME AFTER I ASKED ABOUT THE WX BEING BETTER THAN THE OTHER RWY AND THE FACT THAT WE COULD SEE THE PDX ARPT AREA AND THE FOG WAS LCL IN NATURE. THIS ALLOWED US TO SEE THE RWY LIGHTS AND RWY WELL BEFORE THE 1 MI REQUIRED FOR THE LOC BACK COURSE 10L APCH. THIS SITUATION MOST LIKELY CAME ABOUT BECAUSE OF FAST CHANGING WX AND MY DESIRE TO GET ON THE GND WHILE THE WX WAS GOOD. ALSO I GOT VERY BUSY RECONFIGURING THE ACFT AND RADIOS FOR A DIFFERENT RWY AND I WAS A LITTLE TIRED AFTER FLYING MOST OF THE NIGHT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.