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Attributes | |
ACN | 202056 |
Time | |
Date | 199202 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
Flight Phase | ground : preflight |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 5800 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 202056 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | other |
Situations | |
ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
For a flight from dca to bos received the following routing for a cruise altitude of FL190. Dca...paleo V44 sie V308 orw V16 woons bos. When I questioned (clearance delivery) the use of victor airways for the entire routing I was told that the preferential routing dca-bos for altitudes 9000 ft to FL210 is as we were cleared. While I understand that victor airways are used for the transition to fl's, it seems odd to have the entire routing based on them when above the 'limit' of a victor airway (17999 MSL). In addition, the current airport/facility directory shows that routing for altitudes only up to and including 17000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ACR RPTR CLAIMS THAT PREFERENTIAL RTING FROM DCA TO BOS IS IN THE LOW ALT STRUCTURE, BUT THAT ASSIGNED ALT IS FREQUENTLY FL180 AND ABOVE.
Narrative: FOR A FLT FROM DCA TO BOS RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING RTING FOR A CRUISE ALT OF FL190. DCA...PALEO V44 SIE V308 ORW V16 WOONS BOS. WHEN I QUESTIONED (CLRNC DELIVERY) THE USE OF VICTOR AIRWAYS FOR THE ENTIRE RTING I WAS TOLD THAT THE PREFERENTIAL RTING DCA-BOS FOR ALTS 9000 FT TO FL210 IS AS WE WERE CLRED. WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT VICTOR AIRWAYS ARE USED FOR THE TRANSITION TO FL'S, IT SEEMS ODD TO HAVE THE ENTIRE RTING BASED ON THEM WHEN ABOVE THE 'LIMIT' OF A VICTOR AIRWAY (17999 MSL). IN ADDITION, THE CURRENT ARPT/FACILITY DIRECTORY SHOWS THAT RTING FOR ALTS ONLY UP TO AND INCLUDING 17000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.