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Attributes | |
ACN | 202818 |
Time | |
Date | 199202 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : anc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Widebody, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : preflight ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 5000 |
ASRS Report | 202818 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other other : unspecified |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation other |
Narrative:
Widebody transport from lga to atl. FAA inspector presented himself in cockpit about 15 min before departure to ride jumpseat to atl. Had proper identification and forms authorizing this and showing that operations had been notified. Computer-run weight and balance given to us just prior to push back. So failed to notice that weight and balance did not reflect jumpseat rider. At conclusion of flight, this omission was pointed out to me by inspector. Situation at push back was hectic due to special takeoff data being figured, crowded taxi conditions at lga, etc. However, both so and I should have been more alert to this. On the other hand, on a big airplane in airline operations the PIC must take some things on face value. He cannot go through the cabin and count noses or go out on the ramp and personally weigh each piece of cargo. Ramp operations personnel should be more aware of their responsibility to be careful and accurate.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FAA ACI RIDES JUMPSEAT DURING FLT INSPECTION ACTIVITY AND NOTES HE WAS NOT ON WT MANIFEST AFTER ARRIVING DEST ARPT.
Narrative: WDB FROM LGA TO ATL. FAA INSPECTOR PRESENTED HIMSELF IN COCKPIT ABOUT 15 MIN BEFORE DEP TO RIDE JUMPSEAT TO ATL. HAD PROPER ID AND FORMS AUTHORIZING THIS AND SHOWING THAT OPS HAD BEEN NOTIFIED. COMPUTER-RUN WT AND BAL GIVEN TO US JUST PRIOR TO PUSH BACK. SO FAILED TO NOTICE THAT WT AND BAL DID NOT REFLECT JUMPSEAT RIDER. AT CONCLUSION OF FLT, THIS OMISSION WAS POINTED OUT TO ME BY INSPECTOR. SITUATION AT PUSH BACK WAS HECTIC DUE TO SPECIAL TKOF DATA BEING FIGURED, CROWDED TAXI CONDITIONS AT LGA, ETC. HOWEVER, BOTH SO AND I SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE ALERT TO THIS. ON THE OTHER HAND, ON A BIG AIRPLANE IN AIRLINE OPS THE PIC MUST TAKE SOME THINGS ON FACE VALUE. HE CANNOT GO THROUGH THE CABIN AND COUNT NOSES OR GO OUT ON THE RAMP AND PERSONALLY WEIGH EACH PIECE OF CARGO. RAMP OPS PERSONNEL SHOULD BE MORE AWARE OF THEIR RESPONSIBILITY TO BE CAREFUL AND ACCURATE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.