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Attributes | |
ACN | 203052 |
Time | |
Date | 199202 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : jfk |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 17000 msl bound upper : 17300 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | enroute airway : zny |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Small Transport |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 6400 flight time type : 350 |
ASRS Report | 203052 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 1000 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Our aircraft was cleared to leave 12000 ft and climb to 17000 ft. As we passed through about 14000 ft ATC called VFR traffic at our 1 O'clock position at 15500 ft. Even though the traffic was opposite direction, no turns our altitude restrictions were given to us to avoid the traffic. We did not call traffic in sight to ATC. As we climbed through 15000 ft we saw traffic and increased our rate of climb to following the traffic on the TCASII screen. While we awaited instructions from ATC to avoid the traffic it became obvious we were on our own. Our original rate of climb was 2000 FPM and this was increased to +4000 FPM. We avoided traffic by more than 500 ft vertically and 1-2 mi horizontal. Our high rate of climb and crew concentration on the traffic conflict caused us to overshoot our clearance limit of 17000 ft by 300 ft. We notified ATC of this occurrence as a TCASII TA. ATC was not busy on this frequency and seemed to be neglecting our situation. They said nothing further about the occupance as if it never happened. After ATC initially called the traffic location there was no follow up inquiry as to whether or not we had the traffic in sight. There were no vectors given to avoid traffic and we had been cleared through his altitude ATC dropped the ball on this 1.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: DEV FROM ASSIGNED ALT.
Narrative: OUR ACFT WAS CLRED TO LEAVE 12000 FT AND CLB TO 17000 FT. AS WE PASSED THROUGH ABOUT 14000 FT ATC CALLED VFR TFC AT OUR 1 O'CLOCK POS AT 15500 FT. EVEN THOUGH THE TFC WAS OPPOSITE DIRECTION, NO TURNS OUR ALT RESTRICTIONS WERE GIVEN TO US TO AVOID THE TFC. WE DID NOT CALL TFC IN SIGHT TO ATC. AS WE CLBED THROUGH 15000 FT WE SAW TFC AND INCREASED OUR RATE OF CLB TO FOLLOWING THE TFC ON THE TCASII SCREEN. WHILE WE AWAITED INSTRUCTIONS FROM ATC TO AVOID THE TFC IT BECAME OBVIOUS WE WERE ON OUR OWN. OUR ORIGINAL RATE OF CLB WAS 2000 FPM AND THIS WAS INCREASED TO +4000 FPM. WE AVOIDED TFC BY MORE THAN 500 FT VERTICALLY AND 1-2 MI HORIZ. OUR HIGH RATE OF CLB AND CREW CONCENTRATION ON THE TFC CONFLICT CAUSED US TO OVERSHOOT OUR CLRNC LIMIT OF 17000 FT BY 300 FT. WE NOTIFIED ATC OF THIS OCCURRENCE AS A TCASII TA. ATC WAS NOT BUSY ON THIS FREQ AND SEEMED TO BE NEGLECTING OUR SITUATION. THEY SAID NOTHING FURTHER ABOUT THE OCCUPANCE AS IF IT NEVER HAPPENED. AFTER ATC INITIALLY CALLED THE TFC LOCATION THERE WAS NO FOLLOW UP INQUIRY AS TO WHETHER OR NOT WE HAD THE TFC IN SIGHT. THERE WERE NO VECTORS GIVEN TO AVOID TFC AND WE HAD BEEN CLRED THROUGH HIS ALT ATC DROPPED THE BALL ON THIS 1.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.