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Light transport taxis beyond hold line where cleared due to unusual placement and not using taxi light.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 203861 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199202 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : pvd |
| State Reference | RI |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Flight Phase | ground : holding ground other : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 3400 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 203861 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : clearance other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Clearance issued to taxi from terminal to runway 34 and hold short of 5R. I thought there was another hold short line closer to the runway, but there wasn't. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter states they were cleared to cross 5L which was not active, and taxied to position of normal hold line perpendicular to runway 5R. Problem was hold line was well back from that point, before taxiway C turns. Company tries to conserve on lights so taxi lights not on, but taxiway lights very visible. However, with no taxi lights, hold line not visible. Reporter just being cautious by submitting report.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTT TAXIS BEYOND HOLD LINE WHERE CLRED DUE TO UNUSUAL PLACEMENT AND NOT USING TAXI LIGHT.
Narrative: CLRNC ISSUED TO TAXI FROM TERMINAL TO RWY 34 AND HOLD SHORT OF 5R. I THOUGHT THERE WAS ANOTHER HOLD SHORT LINE CLOSER TO THE RWY, BUT THERE WASN'T. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATES THEY WERE CLRED TO CROSS 5L WHICH WAS NOT ACTIVE, AND TAXIED TO POS OF NORMAL HOLD LINE PERPENDICULAR TO RWY 5R. PROBLEM WAS HOLD LINE WAS WELL BACK FROM THAT POINT, BEFORE TAXIWAY C TURNS. COMPANY TRIES TO CONSERVE ON LIGHTS SO TAXI LIGHTS NOT ON, BUT TAXIWAY LIGHTS VERY VISIBLE. HOWEVER, WITH NO TAXI LIGHTS, HOLD LINE NOT VISIBLE. RPTR JUST BEING CAUTIOUS BY SUBMITTING RPT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.