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Attributes | |
ACN | 204567 |
Time | |
Date | 199203 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : nuq |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 3000 msl bound upper : 3400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : oak |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Light Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 75 flight time total : 4100 flight time type : 75 |
ASRS Report | 204567 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | Other |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Miss Distance | vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
There are many factors involved with this incident, beyond the actual 'altitude bust.' though I am qualified as a part 135 captain on our company aircraft, on this day, I was serving as the first officer, with my 'boss' (employer) dispatched as the PIC. Holding short of nuq runway 14, we were assigned an altitude of 3000 ft by nuq tower. I reset the altitude alerter from our previous assigned altitude down to the new 3000 ft restriction. I then verbally announced the new altitude limit, and received a verbal acknowledgement from the captain. Based on my own previous experience with this particular captain (as well as those related to me by our other pilot who have flown with him), upon being cleared for takeoff, I reiterated the 3000 ft altitude limit, and again, I received a verbal acknowledgement. During climb out, I noticed what I considered to be a high rate of climb, considering our 3000 ft limit. Passing through 1000 ft, I decided to announce '2000 to go' (not a required callout). Going through 2000 ft, I stated '1000 to go, 3000's the limit.' at 2500 ft, I called out, virtually simultaneously, '500 to go, approaching altitude!' as we passed through 3000 ft, I reached for the power levers to reduce the power and I called out 'you went through your altitude, we need to go down to 3000!' I saw the altimeter to read as high as 3400 at its highest point. I then heard an airliner state that his TCASII had warned of an impending aircraft within 500 ft. The controller idented that aircraft to the airliner as being us. I have had several situations occur with this particular captain, but the fact that he is my boss and that he is 37 years my senior has made it very difficult to deal with this situation. I am currently considering alternatives to flying with him ever again, while still maintaining my employment.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: LTT FLC IN CLB EXCEEDS ASSIGNED ALT BY 400 FT. RETURNS TO ASSIGNED.
Narrative: THERE ARE MANY FACTORS INVOLVED WITH THIS INCIDENT, BEYOND THE ACTUAL 'ALT BUST.' THOUGH I AM QUALIFIED AS A PART 135 CAPT ON OUR COMPANY ACFT, ON THIS DAY, I WAS SERVING AS THE FO, WITH MY 'BOSS' (EMPLOYER) DISPATCHED AS THE PIC. HOLDING SHORT OF NUQ RWY 14, WE WERE ASSIGNED AN ALT OF 3000 FT BY NUQ TWR. I RESET THE ALT ALERTER FROM OUR PREVIOUS ASSIGNED ALT DOWN TO THE NEW 3000 FT RESTRICTION. I THEN VERBALLY ANNOUNCED THE NEW ALT LIMIT, AND RECEIVED A VERBAL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT FROM THE CAPT. BASED ON MY OWN PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE WITH THIS PARTICULAR CAPT (AS WELL AS THOSE RELATED TO ME BY OUR OTHER PLT WHO HAVE FLOWN WITH HIM), UPON BEING CLRED FOR TKOF, I REITERATED THE 3000 FT ALT LIMIT, AND AGAIN, I RECEIVED A VERBAL ACKNOWLEDGEMENT. DURING CLBOUT, I NOTICED WHAT I CONSIDERED TO BE A HIGH RATE OF CLB, CONSIDERING OUR 3000 FT LIMIT. PASSING THROUGH 1000 FT, I DECIDED TO ANNOUNCE '2000 TO GO' (NOT A REQUIRED CALLOUT). GOING THROUGH 2000 FT, I STATED '1000 TO GO, 3000'S THE LIMIT.' AT 2500 FT, I CALLED OUT, VIRTUALLY SIMULTANEOUSLY, '500 TO GO, APCHING ALT!' AS WE PASSED THROUGH 3000 FT, I REACHED FOR THE PWR LEVERS TO REDUCE THE PWR AND I CALLED OUT 'YOU WENT THROUGH YOUR ALT, WE NEED TO GO DOWN TO 3000!' I SAW THE ALTIMETER TO READ AS HIGH AS 3400 AT ITS HIGHEST POINT. I THEN HEARD AN AIRLINER STATE THAT HIS TCASII HAD WARNED OF AN IMPENDING ACFT WITHIN 500 FT. THE CTLR IDENTED THAT ACFT TO THE AIRLINER AS BEING US. I HAVE HAD SEVERAL SITUATIONS OCCUR WITH THIS PARTICULAR CAPT, BUT THE FACT THAT HE IS MY BOSS AND THAT HE IS 37 YEARS MY SENIOR HAS MADE IT VERY DIFFICULT TO DEAL WITH THIS SITUATION. I AM CURRENTLY CONSIDERING ALTERNATIVES TO FLYING WITH HIM EVER AGAIN, WHILE STILL MAINTAINING MY EMPLOYMENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.