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Attributes | |
ACN | 205530 |
Time | |
Date | 199203 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : clt |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : clt tower : clt |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : preflight ground other : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 11500 flight time type : 2400 |
ASRS Report | 205530 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 3000 |
ASRS Report | 205877 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Forgot to get ATC route clearance through ACARS pds. Taxied out on ground control. No mentioned of lack of clearance! Took off with takeoff clearance on tower frequency. No mentioned of lack of clearance! Switched to departure control. Again no mention of lack of clearance! They told us to squawk wxyz as compared to abcd. We did. That was our first clue that something wasn't right. I checked our ACARS messages and found no ATC pre departure clearance clearance. Nothing was ever said to us one way or the other!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MLG TKOF WITHOUT OBTAINING PRE DEP CLRNC VIA ACARS.
Narrative: FORGOT TO GET ATC RTE CLRNC THROUGH ACARS PDS. TAXIED OUT ON GND CTL. NO MENTIONED OF LACK OF CLRNC! TOOK OFF WITH TKOF CLRNC ON TWR FREQ. NO MENTIONED OF LACK OF CLRNC! SWITCHED TO DEP CTL. AGAIN NO MENTION OF LACK OF CLRNC! THEY TOLD US TO SQUAWK WXYZ AS COMPARED TO ABCD. WE DID. THAT WAS OUR FIRST CLUE THAT SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT. I CHKED OUR ACARS MESSAGES AND FOUND NO ATC PDC CLRNC. NOTHING WAS EVER SAID TO US ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.