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Attributes | |
ACN | 205857 |
Time | |
Date | 199203 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mdw |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 5800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ord tower : alb |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Large Transport, Low Wing, 3 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Medium Large Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turbojet Eng |
Flight Phase | cruise other |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 285 flight time total : 30000 |
ASRS Report | 205857 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : returned to intended course or assigned course flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | Other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 12000 vertical : 200 |
Supplementary | |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
After takeoff, being cleared to climb to 5000 ft, the PF overshot the altitude by approximately 800 ft; putting us in the path of an inbound aircraft (which appeared to be at 6000 ft). Discovered: I could see it. Action: the captain told him to get on altitude -- I shook his shoulder and told him to get down on altitude. Evasive action: very mild. Contributing factors: too much simulator time not enough in aircraft. Why did it occur: ego, and lack of real flying experience. Suggestion: when a person has min time flying, especially heavy aircraft, 100000 pounds or more, they should know that that kind of approach has its own force (kinetic) and you have to make allowance for that force; to be ahead of the aircraft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ALTDEV ALT OVERSHOT IN CLB.
Narrative: AFTER TKOF, BEING CLRED TO CLB TO 5000 FT, THE PF OVERSHOT THE ALT BY APPROX 800 FT; PUTTING US IN THE PATH OF AN INBOUND ACFT (WHICH APPEARED TO BE AT 6000 FT). DISCOVERED: I COULD SEE IT. ACTION: THE CAPT TOLD HIM TO GET ON ALT -- I SHOOK HIS SHOULDER AND TOLD HIM TO GET DOWN ON ALT. EVASIVE ACTION: VERY MILD. CONTRIBUTING FACTORS: TOO MUCH SIMULATOR TIME NOT ENOUGH IN ACFT. WHY DID IT OCCUR: EGO, AND LACK OF REAL FLYING EXPERIENCE. SUGGESTION: WHEN A PERSON HAS MIN TIME FLYING, ESPECIALLY HVY ACFT, 100000 POUNDS OR MORE, THEY SHOULD KNOW THAT THAT KIND OF APCH HAS ITS OWN FORCE (KINETIC) AND YOU HAVE TO MAKE ALLOWANCE FOR THAT FORCE; TO BE AHEAD OF THE ACFT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.