A flight instructor was upset because a 12 yrs student pilot had more than one medical in his posses...

Attributes
ACN	209160
Time
Date	199204
Day	Tue
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : ict
State Reference	KS
Altitude	agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : sux
Person 1
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 615
ASRS Report	209160
Person 2
Affiliation	Other
Function	instruction : trainee
Qualification	other other : other
Events
Anomaly	other anomaly other other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other other : unspecified
Resolutory Action	none taken : unable other
Consequence	Other
Supplementary
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

The problem occurred when a student pilot was recommended for his chkride. He had been with different instructors over a period of 12 yrs. He has received 2, third class medicals/student certificates and 2 regular third class medicals. The most recent (and current) medical is to be issued to private pilots, not students. The instructor signed the back of the white medical (for private pilots). This allowed the student to fly solo on a current medical. However this medical is not a student certificate. The student was told by his medical examiner that the third class medical is valid as long as the student keeps the expired student pilot certificate. The problem is that of a student being allowed to keep old, expired certificates providing for an excess of paperwork and chance for confusion. The solution is to require medical examiners to ask for the expired certificates in exchange for the current student pilot certificate/medical.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A FLT INSTRUCTOR WAS UPSET BECAUSE A 12 YRS STUDENT PLT HAD MORE THAN ONE MEDICAL IN HIS POSSESSION DUE TO MANY ENDORSEMENTS ON THE BACK.

Narrative: THE PROBLEM OCCURRED WHEN A STUDENT PLT WAS RECOMMENDED FOR HIS CHKRIDE. HE HAD BEEN WITH DIFFERENT INSTRUCTORS OVER A PERIOD OF 12 YRS. HE HAS RECEIVED 2, THIRD CLASS MEDICALS/STUDENT CERTIFICATES AND 2 REGULAR THIRD CLASS MEDICALS. THE MOST RECENT (AND CURRENT) MEDICAL IS TO BE ISSUED TO PVT PLTS, NOT STUDENTS. THE INSTRUCTOR SIGNED THE BACK OF THE WHITE MEDICAL (FOR PVT PLTS). THIS ALLOWED THE STUDENT TO FLY SOLO ON A CURRENT MEDICAL. HOWEVER THIS MEDICAL IS NOT A STUDENT CERTIFICATE. THE STUDENT WAS TOLD BY HIS MEDICAL EXAMINER THAT THE THIRD CLASS MEDICAL IS VALID AS LONG AS THE STUDENT KEEPS THE EXPIRED STUDENT PLT CERTIFICATE. THE PROBLEM IS THAT OF A STUDENT BEING ALLOWED TO KEEP OLD, EXPIRED CERTIFICATES PROVIDING FOR AN EXCESS OF PAPERWORK AND CHANCE FOR CONFUSION. THE SOLUTION IS TO REQUIRE MEDICAL EXAMINERS TO ASK FOR THE EXPIRED CERTIFICATES IN EXCHANGE FOR THE CURRENT STUDENT PLT CERTIFICATE/MEDICAL.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

A flight instructor was upset because a 12 yrs student pilot had more than one medical in his possession due to many endorsements on the back.