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Small aircraft requests use of grass strip adjacent to paved runway. Granted. Ground questions taxi from grass to paved area with no hold short.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 209813 |
| Time | |
| Date | 199205 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ash |
| State Reference | NC |
| Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : ash |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, High Wing, 1 Eng, Fixed Gear |
| Flight Phase | ground other : taxi landing other |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | Other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : flight engineer pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 40 flight time total : 7200 flight time type : 2000 |
| ASRS Report | 209813 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : local |
| Qualification | controller : non radar |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other controllera other other : unspecified cockpit |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
| Supplementary | |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | other |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : unspecified |
| Airport | procedure or policy : unspecified |
Narrative:
While cleared to land on runway 32 at ash, nh, I requested to land on the grass located just immediately on the east side of the paved runway. I was granted my request from the local controller 'at my own risk,' which is standard phraseology. After a 300 ft rollout (aircraft is STOL) I continued onto the pavement and exited onto the first taxiway. The ground controller who cleared me to the tiedown area also remarked that the local controller was surprised when I did not hold short of the pavement. I asked if they were using the grass and the pavement as a parallel operation. ATC said it was a 'gray area' and that runway 32 was 'active.' I said I was cleared to land without any restrictions (hold short, etc) and that the grass landing area is so close to the pavement that any other operation in my area was unsafe to me, the landing 'cleared' aircraft. I believe from past experience/observations at this airport that a very dangerous condition exists. I had, 3 yrs ago, observed an aircraft on short final to the grass with another aircraft cleared to takeoff on the pavement. The landing aircraft went around on their own. I truly believe when cleared to land at this airport, the runway is the landing area and it's very probable to have the aircraft's wing over the paved area and rollout may include either surface. Some clarification at the ash airport is needed with NOTAMS or ATC procedures.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMA REQUESTS USE OF GRASS STRIP ADJACENT TO PAVED RWY. GRANTED. GND QUESTIONS TAXI FROM GRASS TO PAVED AREA WITH NO HOLD SHORT.
Narrative: WHILE CLRED TO LAND ON RWY 32 AT ASH, NH, I REQUESTED TO LAND ON THE GRASS LOCATED JUST IMMEDIATELY ON THE E SIDE OF THE PAVED RWY. I WAS GRANTED MY REQUEST FROM THE LCL CTLR 'AT MY OWN RISK,' WHICH IS STANDARD PHRASEOLOGY. AFTER A 300 FT ROLLOUT (ACFT IS STOL) I CONTINUED ONTO THE PAVEMENT AND EXITED ONTO THE FIRST TAXIWAY. THE GND CTLR WHO CLRED ME TO THE TIEDOWN AREA ALSO REMARKED THAT THE LCL CTLR WAS SURPRISED WHEN I DID NOT HOLD SHORT OF THE PAVEMENT. I ASKED IF THEY WERE USING THE GRASS AND THE PAVEMENT AS A PARALLEL OP. ATC SAID IT WAS A 'GRAY AREA' AND THAT RWY 32 WAS 'ACTIVE.' I SAID I WAS CLRED TO LAND WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTIONS (HOLD SHORT, ETC) AND THAT THE GRASS LNDG AREA IS SO CLOSE TO THE PAVEMENT THAT ANY OTHER OP IN MY AREA WAS UNSAFE TO ME, THE LNDG 'CLRED' ACFT. I BELIEVE FROM PAST EXPERIENCE/OBSERVATIONS AT THIS ARPT THAT A VERY DANGEROUS CONDITION EXISTS. I HAD, 3 YRS AGO, OBSERVED AN ACFT ON SHORT FINAL TO THE GRASS WITH ANOTHER ACFT CLRED TO TKOF ON THE PAVEMENT. THE LNDG ACFT WENT AROUND ON THEIR OWN. I TRULY BELIEVE WHEN CLRED TO LAND AT THIS ARPT, THE RWY IS THE LNDG AREA AND IT'S VERY PROBABLE TO HAVE THE ACFT'S WING OVER THE PAVED AREA AND ROLLOUT MAY INCLUDE EITHER SURFACE. SOME CLARIFICATION AT THE ASH ARPT IS NEEDED WITH NOTAMS OR ATC PROCS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.